Why has GGG's career been moved so slowly?

[baya]

the short of the long of it is that he's a fhagit niga.

[big_james10]

There is no reason why GGG shouldn't have moved to 168 and then on to 175 a few years ago. Quilling and Martinez made it clear that they weren't going go fight him. Chavez Jr. was caught up in promotional problems and couldn't fight him. GGG shoud have moved up to take on the big names at 168 and 175. Imagine if GGG, Ward, Bute, Froch, Hopkins (from a few years so), De Gale, Paschal, Kovalev and Stevenson had come together to fight each other. We would have had some great fights and could have created another era like the Leonard, Hagler, Hearns, Duran,, Benitez era.

However, what GGG's team has done is fight stiffs ilike Willie Munroe Jr. in their weight classes while waiting on smaller, more popular fighters from lower weigh classes to move up to fight him.


A career is a terrible thing to waste.

[ИATAS]

The only reason a promoter moves a fighter slowly is that the promoter knows that the fighter is not very good and the promoter wants to make as much money and get as much mileage out of the fighter as possible.

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Which wasn't the case for Golovkin obviously. It's been explained in detail here and many times prior, it's been explained to Larry before and he pretends he doesn't know the answers. Golovkin fought and lived in Germany, promoted under the same banner as Felix Sturm. Golovkin worked his way up to mandatory, which at the time was a huge fight for Golovkin given Sturms popularity in Germany. His own promoter kept Golovkin away from their star in Sturm, despite being mandatory for over two years. Sturm even laid the WBA 750,000 so that he wouldn't fight him. Meanwhile Golovkin tried to get other bit fights for him, Anthony Mundine, Geale, N'dam, etc, and ended up in a legal dispute. While in legal limbo, GGG had to take fights in Panama and Kazakhstan just to stay busy. After all the legal crap settled he finally got a decent promoter in K2 and immediately fought in the US on HBO originally against Dmitry Pirog who pulled out due to injury. This only happened in 2012.

All of this, well documented and factual. Add to this the list of guys who undoubtedly passed on fighting Golovkin since then - Sergio Martinez, Geale (was stripped, ended up fighting him anyways later), Peter Quillin, Cotto, Canelo, Chavez jr.

But yes let's pretend none of that was reality and let's ask the question "why has Golovkin been moved so slowly? Derp derp derp

[Beercules]

Damn Gennady hurts feelings on NSB

[boliodogs]

He turned pro in 2006 and won the world middleweight tittle in 2010 and has defended it successfully 14 times all by KO. Yes he turned pro at a late age but he won the championship in just 4 years and defended 14 times in 5 years winning all defenses by KO. Nobody fighting today has done more in less time. Does Andre Ward have 14 successful defenses of his 168 pound title? No, not even close. Does he knock all his opponents. Of course not. Name anybody fighting today who has won a world title and defended it successfully 14 times in their first 9 years as a pro? I don't think you can.

[boliodogs]

There is no reason why GGG shouldn't have moved to 168 and then on to 175 a few years ago. Quilling and Martinez made it clear that they weren't going go fight him. Chavez Jr. was caught up in promotional problems and couldn't fight him. GGG shoud have moved up to take on the big names at 168 and 175. Imagine if GGG, Ward, Bute, Froch, Hopkins (from a few years so), De Gale, Paschal, Kovalev and Stevenson had come together to fight each other. We would have had some great fights and could have created another era like the Leonard, Hagler, Hearns, Duran,, Benitez era.

However, what GGG's team has done is fight stiffs ilike Willie Munroe Jr. in their weight classes while waiting on smaller, more popular fighters from lower weigh classes to move up to fight him.


A career is a terrible thing to waste.

His fighting weight is 160 pounds. By moving up to 168 or 175 he puts himself at an 8 to 15 pound disadvantage which is a good way to get beat which is what all GGG haters want. If he can beat any 160 pounder alive that makes him a hell of a fighter and he doesn't need to do more than that. He has had a great career and he is rated in the top 5 pound for pound fighters in the world by all places that rank fighters.

[Weltschmerz]

A lot of the Eastern Europeans and Russians have extended amateur careers and thus peak later as pros. Kov is another example, it took him years and years to establish himself in the US.

[Mr. Philadel]

the short of the long of it is that he's a fhagit niga.

[New England]

He missed the 143 limit not 147

the limit was 144, and he missed it by two pounds. he came in at 146, and refused to weigh in on fight night [what a shocker.] none of you should talk to me like i don't know what i am talking about

mayweather jr had a well documented, 7 figure lean on his income at the time. he owed the IRS 3.5 million in backed taxes. he was in dire financial straights, and he couldn't get lower than 146 lbs, which cost him a ton of money that he did not have.

he was not a small welterweight. he wasn't tommy hearns, but he certainly wasn't small. he was a WW for a decade. marquez' shots looked like a bug hitting a windshield. marquez only carried weight well at WW after he hooked up with a known steroid guru, and went through puberty again at age 38 []

[b00g13man]

His fighting weight is 160 pounds. By moving up to 168 or 175 he puts himself at an 8 to 15 pound disadvantage which is a good way to get beat which is what all GGG haters want. If he can beat any 160 pounder alive that makes him a hell of a fighter and he doesn't need to do more than that. He has had a great career and he is rated in the top 5 pound for pound fighters in the world by all places that rank fighters.

You make it sound like that is unprecedented in the sport. Fighters do it to achieve greatness. GGG clearly isn't willing to take risks.