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  • Originally posted by New England View Post
    floyd's not a welterweight according to some of his fans... for some reason...


    we know what the reason is. it gives floyd further credit, particularly in the context of the pacquiao fight and common pacquiao opponents. later it was used to keep the heat down about a fight with golovkin. that is how the floyd mayweather and manny pacquiao fan thought for 6 years. now the rhetoric has moved to other fighters.


    floyd's a small welterweight, yet needed an IV in the lead up to a fight with pacquiao at 147 lbs? small welterweight, yet he misses weight against marquez when he was in a well documented situation with the IRS? floyd wasn't even rich back then. he was in debt. a guy called money mayweather misses weight and loses money because he can't make the catchweight.

    floyd mayweather is not a small welterweight. he's not a huge welterweight, like hearns, but he's certainly not small. many of his best opponents were smaller men moving up. his biggest opponent, canelo alvarez, isn't gigantic, and doesn't fight like a big man.
    He missed the 143 limit not 147

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    • Originally posted by SUBZER0ED View Post
      I don't know that it's as simple as that. There has to be some motivating factors to take a tough fight. Most of the time when you hear a fighter say that he's willing to take on a tough fight, he expresses that he sees weaknesses or mistakes in the proposed opponent. There's also the money factor, which plays a strong role. Another is the danger factor. Finally, there's the career impact factor. Take Floyd for instance; no one feared him, because he's not known to be a devastating puncher. Later in his career, he grabbed, ran, held & pot-shotted his way to victories. Opponents likely saw that as a weakness they could exploit, until they got in the ring with him. Of course, being the highest grossing athlete on the planet means fighting him should mean a big payday, so everybody wanted to line up to fight him. A loss to Floyd wouldn't hurt most people's careers, because he's regarded as the best P4P on the planet.

      Now look at Golovkin; the guy's a devastating puncher, with one of the highest KO ratios in the sport. Chances are if you get into the ring with him, you'll get KTFO. He may have weaknesses as he can be hit, but he's yet to be really hurt, & he keeps coming. He's still trying to advance his career to stardom but he's not there yet. As a result he's not getting paid mega bucks for fights, & his opponents will make even less. Anyone who's willing to fight him hopes they can beat him and advance their careers. A win against him probably would, because he's destroying everybody. However, getting Ko'd by someone who's dangerous, but not meg-star status can devastate a career. This is especially true since most of GGG's opponents are poorly regarded from the start.

      You're saying A sides don't wait for anybody. That's not entirely true. They surely don't chase down fights; fights come to them for the reasons I listed above. The problem is in Golovkin's case, the risk is too high & reward too low for most to face him, so they pass (big names included). While it's true that he may have to step above his weight class to get a big fight, it's a shame that he has to put himself at a decided disadvantage because he's feared.
      Well that means he is not a A-Side Fighter! So technically him pretending to be a A-Side fighter is the real reason why his career is moving slow. K2 trying to build up their promotion in the US off the back of a 33 year old fighter whom they just don't have the time to build up in to a Superstar due to his age.

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      • Why has GGG's career been moved so slowly?

        You can say the same thing with Rigo's.

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        • Bla da ja gervonte

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          • Originally posted by bojangles1987 View Post
            I realized that when I mentioned Universum and no one even paid attention. I don't think any Golovkin or Ward thread can ever be anything more than toxic nonsense anymore.
            People just looking for reasons to start shit on this forum.

            :s

            There's like 14 pages, smdh

            *edit
            NVM, 35 pages... 35 pages for something that was answered pages ago.

            People on this forum are ******ed. I thought East Side boxing was bad...smdh
            Last edited by Hougigo; 12-18-2015, 11:24 PM.

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            • Originally posted by LarryXXX View Post
              He has been pro for 9 going on 10 years and is 33 almost 34

              compare that to others and what they achieved in 10 years
              The only reason a promoter moves a fighter slowly is that the promoter knows that the fighter is not very good and the promoter wants to make as much money and get as much mileage out of the fighter as possible.

              Wilder, Chavez Jr., Gary Russell and Canelo Alvarez are other examples of fighters who have been moved slowly for this very reason. GGG has taken this whole thing a step further. He is only willing to fight big-name fighters who are smaller than him (Mayweather, Cotto, Alvarez) or those that he knows are, like him, not very good (Chavez Jr.).

              There at three or four fighters at 168 that I think would beat GGG, but we will never see him in the ring with those fighters, but he will fight the Willie Munroe Jr's of the world any chance he gets.

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              • Originally posted by Chrismart View Post
                Haha yep, the ones who say 'I haven't got anything against Golovkin, but..[insert Golovkin rant here]..''.
                Fair enough if it wasn't from obvious haters, but most of the time it is. It's from the guys who make several Golovkin threads a day, as well as multiple posts on him per day. Always of a negative nature ,then act as if it's not transparent.
                ''It's because they hate his fans doe.''

                To post so obsessively about one fighter means they're fanboys, or haters. It's obvious which camp these posters are in. It's always the same guys.

                Golovkin ruffles feathers on here.
                Yeah, it's pretty pathetic. They're the same ones who can't say anything critical of Floyd but will bash the next guy to pieces.

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                • Originally posted by JQside View Post
                  You can say the same thing with Rigo's.
                  Exactly. No thread about that. But it's clear what the agenda is here. Op is a bi-polar junkie who needs to be sterilized.

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                  • Originally posted by JQside View Post
                    You can say the same thing with Rigo's.
                    Rigo's problem is a combination of bad management, a boring style that he is not willing to change and makes him a pariah among boxing networks and Rigo's own ******ity. It is a different situation from GGG.

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                    • why was hagler's career moved so slowly? didn't do a damn thing but stay in the same division figthing bums, and fighters moving up. these 2 guys are bums! bums i tell you! at least ggg hasn't lost to bums like hagler and prob won't lose to welterweights like canelo. he needs to move up 5 divisions to be great.

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