Comments Thread For: Nelson Says HBO Will Have Open Door To All Promoters

[HeroBando]

haha EPIC.

you should have done a *mic drop* after finding that gem

I would green k you. but it wont let me yet haha

Can't take much credit, poster Jubei found it. It was after Lemieux Ndam. Amazing lack of integrity

[Nay_Sayer]

Let HBO put on real fights.

HBO has been putting on "real" fights? Was Bumlovkin Monroe jr one of those "real" fights? What about the TOMATO CAN that Kovalev krushed in his last fight? Was that a "real" fight too?

[Eastcoast]

I see the debate shifting from whether we'll see a Haymon fighter on HBO to whether or not Haymon's really a promoter.

Haymon calls the shots on every fighter under contract. In fact it's part of every Haymon fighter's contract - he has the right to turn down any fight regardless of the fighter's wishes. Just like Haymon has the right to terminate any contract if the fighter speaks out against him.

HBO has tried to make fights with Haymon fighters and Haymon has prevented these fights from happening. HBO agreed to buy Quillin/Korobov and Steiverne/Ortiz. They were prepared to buy Lomachenko/Russell and Kovalev/Stevenson.

To this day, nobody has given a good answer why Quillin or Stevenson need to have Showtime involved with fights against Golovkin or Kovalev. Neither Stevenson or Quillin or contractually obligated to Showtime. The last fighter who was contractually obligated to Showtime was Khan, and even he no longer is.

[AllBoxingAD]

I see the debate shifting from whether we'll see a Haymon fighter on HBO to whether or not Haymon's really a promoter.

Haymon calls the shots on every fighter under contract. In fact it's part of every Haymon fighter's contract - he has the right to turn down any fight regardless of the fighter's wishes. Just like Haymon has the right to terminate any contract if the fighter speaks out against him.

HBO has tried to make fights with Haymon fighters and Haymon has prevented these fights from happening. HBO agreed to buy Quillin/Korobov and Steiverne/Ortiz. They were prepared to buy Lomachenko/Russell and Kovalev/Stevenson.

To this day, nobody has given a good answer why Quillin or Stevenson need to have Showtime involved with fights against Golovkin or Kovalev. Neither Stevenson or Quillin or contractually obligated to Showtime. The last fighter who was contractually obligated to Showtime was Khan, and even he no longer is.

I dont know the specifics about Quillin/Korobov, but you are wrong about Stevenson - Kovalev. Thats not how it went down at all.

[The Big Dunn]

I see the debate shifting from whether we'll see a Haymon fighter on HBO to whether or not Haymon's really a promoter.

Haymon calls the shots on every fighter under contract. In fact it's part of every Haymon fighter's contract - he has the right to turn down any fight regardless of the fighter's wishes. Just like Haymon has the right to terminate any contract if the fighter speaks out against him.

HBO has tried to make fights with Haymon fighters and Haymon has prevented these fights from happening. HBO agreed to buy Quillin/Korobov and Steiverne/Ortiz. They were prepared to buy Lomachenko/Russell and Kovalev/Stevenson.

To this day, nobody has given a good answer why Quillin or Stevenson need to have Showtime involved with fights against Golovkin or Kovalev. Neither Stevenson or Quillin or contractually obligated to Showtime. The last fighter who was contractually obligated to Showtime was Khan, and even he no longer is.

HBO has the exact same arrangement with all fighters they have signed yet HBO is not called a "defacto promoter".

I don't recall HBO trying to buy those fights. Lomanchenko/Russell went to purse bid. Kov/Stevenson was never signed by HBO. Haymon signed Adonis so the fight would not be on HBO.

It was all about NOT having them on HBO.

[OnePunch]

I dont know the specifics about Quillin/Korobov, but you are wrong about Stevenson - Kovalev. Thats not how it went down at all.

In the beginning it did. HBO had verbal agreement to do Stevenson-Kovalev. Then Stevenson signed with Haymon and Al put the kibosh on the whole thing. More recently the whole clown show with Duva and purse bids took place, but initially it was Al that killed it, for whatever reason.

HBO shares blame though for not locking up the deal in writing before Stevenson fled.........

[Larry the boss]

good......

[AllBoxingAD]

In the beginning it did. HBO had verbal agreement to do Stevenson-Kovalev. Then Stevenson signed with Haymon and Al put the kibosh on the whole thing. More recently the whole clown show with Duva and purse bids took place, but initially it was Al that killed it, for whatever reason.

HBO shares blame though for not locking up the deal in writing before Stevenson fled.........

When Stevenson was an HBO fighter, they were setting up the fight against Kovalev. Absolutely. Once he became a Haymon fighter, HBO wasnt so willing anymore, making Duva look like a clown trying to explain herself (the Canadian exchange rate ???). Which is why Im saying we cant list Stevenson vs Kovalev as a fight HBO tried to make with a Haymon fighter.

But I have my fingers crossed for this to happen next year.

[OnePunch]

When Stevenson was an HBO fighter, they were setting up the fight against Kovalev. Absolutely. Once he became a Haymon fighter, HBO wasnt so willing anymore, making Duva look like a clown trying to explain herself (the Canadian exchange rate ???). Which is why Im saying we cant list Stevenson vs Kovalev as a fight HBO tried to make with a Haymon fighter.

But I have my fingers crossed for this to happen next year.

that was too funny. People were like "uhmmmm, huh????" lol

[Eastcoast]

I dont know the specifics about Quillin/Korobov, but you are wrong about Stevenson - Kovalev. Thats not how it went down at all.

HBO has the exact same arrangement with all fighters they have signed yet HBO is not called a "defacto promoter".

I don't recall HBO trying to buy those fights. Lomanchenko/Russell went to purse bid. Kov/Stevenson was never signed by HBO. Haymon signed Adonis so the fight would not be on HBO.

It was all about NOT having them on HBO.

In regards to Kovalev/Stevenson, GYM/Haymon ordered an immediate purse without negotiations. HBO's made it clear they wanted this fight. Stevenson is not an official Showtime fighter, so he's free to name his price with HBO for the fight, yet GYM/Haymon won't even go that far. WHY???

Lomo/Russell went to purse bid because Haymon wouldn't even negotiate with TR on the fight. He also refused to negotiate with TR for Korobov/Quillin. These incidents were reported prior to the purse bids. Just like the Russian promoter said Haymon wouldn't respond for negotiation on Chudinov/Jacobs.

When RN won the purse bid for Korobov/Quillin, HBO agreed to buy the fight. It was then canceled at the last second, just like Stieverne/Ortiz, even though Stieverne and his manager had already agreed to all the terms weeks before.