Comments Thread For: Nelson Says HBO Will Have Open Door To All Promoters

[The Big Dunn]

I don't get what you mean about the fight not crossing over to the mainstream. Boxing is a niche sport, that's driven largely by its fans. Do you think that Kovalev vs Stevenson won't make big money because one is an alleged racist & the other an alleged pimp? Mayweather is a convicted domestic abuser & it's widely known that Pacquiao nearly womanized and gambled his way to a divorce. We know that fight was huge anyway. No one is looking for role models in boxing.

I don't think the fight will be as big as some do. Its like OnePunch example of Calzaghe and Kessler-big fight for us as diehards, not a big fight outside of the sport.

Floyd and Manny are different animals and they both had established careers and stature that mitigated those negatives. Kov and Adonis do not.

Again, I really want the fight to happen.

[The Big Dunn]

Its a big money fight in Canada only.

Its gonna be on PPV, either in Quebec City or Montreal in front of a sold out crowd.

In the US its gonna get very good ratings, but thats about it I guess.

ok. if its PPV in Canada then maybe they make some money. I could be wrong but I just think its a "fight fans fight" not so much a "big fight"-if that makes sense.

[SUBZER0ED]

HBO couldnt care less if Duva does the purse bid, and honestly, I dont know why she didnt just do it. Obviously if she lost the bid, she would have to pull out, since Kov cant fight on Showtime. I just dont understand why she didnt go through with the bid anyways, and who knows maybe she wins. Not likely, but whats to lose by trying?

At least by going through with the bid she would have an idea as to what kind of money Haymon was willing to spend on the fight......

Duva already knew that Haymon's pockets were deeper than hers. I think she wrongfully assumed that HBO had her back, and realized her error later. Kovalev fights exclusively on HBO, so why participate in a bid if you know you'll lose? If she had gone through with the bid & Haymon won, he would have picked Showtime as the host of the fight, which could not be honored by Duva & Kovalev. So instead of just having to deal with negative press about pulling out of the bid, Duva may have had to deal with legal issues of not honoring the outcome of the bid.

[Eastcoast]

Thats just it, he cant just name his price. HBO is BIG on sticking to their budget. They are keeping their purse super tight. The reality is Showtime is prepared to pay alot more for this fight then HBO is. That is why HBO has ordered Duva to not participate in the purse bid.

What do you have to base anything you just said on? How do you know what Showtime and HBO are willing to pay? The first step is for Stevenson to name his damn price and they won't even do that.

And where do you have HBO ordered Duva to withdrawl? She announced prior to GYM/Haymon ordering an immediate pursebid, to hold off until after Kovalev finished his IBF mandatory. Why did they need to rush it for? Stevenson had nothing lined up - Karpency?!! HBO has first-rights on Kovalev, GYM/Haymon make the bid, HBO can pass if it's too much problem solved, fans win. Why not make an offer to HBO for whatever dollar amount your sure Showtime will give you???????????????

[The Big Dunn]

HBO couldnt care less if Duva does the purse bid, and honestly, I dont know why she didnt just do it. Obviously if she lost the bid, she would have to pull out, since Kov cant fight on Showtime. I just dont understand why she didnt go through with the bid anyways, and who knows maybe she wins. Not likely, but whats to lose by trying?

At least by going through with the bid she would have an idea as to what kind of money Haymon was willing to spend on the fight......

Its because HBO, just like you said Haymon did, is Kov's defacto promoter since they can approve any fight he takes. If you can see the negatives of how Haymon operates you should be able to see this just as clear.

[AllBoxingAD]

HBO couldnt care less if Duva does the purse bid, and honestly, I dont know why she didnt just do it. Obviously if she lost the bid, she would have to pull out, since Kov cant fight on Showtime. I just dont understand why she didnt go through with the bid anyways, and who knows maybe she wins. Not likely, but whats to lose by trying?

At least by going through with the bid she would have an idea as to what kind of money Haymon was willing to spend on the fight......

Im not sure about this, but I think lawsuits would ensue in this scenario.

If you participate in a purse bid, its because you are prepared for the possibility that you might lose.

I dont think you are allowed to lose and disagree to make the fight because it didnt go your way.

[SUBZER0ED]

I don't think the fight will be as big as some do. Its like OnePunch example of Calzaghe and Kessler-big fight for us as diehards, not a big fight outside of the sport.

Floyd and Manny are different animals and they both had established careers and stature that mitigated those negatives. Kov and Adonis do not.

Again, I really want the fight to happen.

I get it. They're not really that widely known outside of the diehard fans. I guess it would be more accurate to refer to the "mainstream" as casual fans of the sport.

[OnePunch]

Im not sure about this, but I think lawsuits would ensue in this scenario.

If you participate in a purse bid, its because you are prepared for the possibility that you might lose.

I dont think you are allowed to lose and disagree to make the fight because it didnt go your way.

Thats happened PLENTY of times. Most recently Quillin/Korobov

[bigjavi973]

so you are willing to work with them as long as they are willing to work with you.....

so nothing is gonna change cuz HBO big bosses will say they dont have enough in the HBO overall budget etc etc.

[OnePunch]

Its because HBO, just like you said Haymon did, is Kov's defacto promoter since they can approve any fight he takes. If you can see the negatives of how Haymon operates you should be able to see this just as clear.

Nothing prevented Duva from going ahead with the bid. If she lost, she could have done the same thing Haymon did in Quillin/Korobov, and just pull out after the bid.

HBO had nothing to do with it. For whatever reason, I guess Duva felt it wasnt worth even trying