Why do people want to see Golovkin face a fighter 2 weight classes above? (Ward)

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  • New England
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    #71
    Originally posted by Barcham
    Ward's goals... find out of shape, fat **** to fight on undercard of Cotto PPV. Demand piece of PPV revenue to fight said fat ****. IF terms are refused, fight said fat **** on BET instead.

    Sit on ass to wait for small middleweight champion to come up and fight me in Oakland.

    Sue everyone who says anything I do not like.


    ward's been in talks with kovalev, and would jump at a chance to fight golovkin. p4p fights are definitely taking backseat to andy lee and peter quillin

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      #72
      Originally posted by hhs661
      Guy, shut up. Andy Lee or possibly Billy Joe Saunders is more meaningful than a fight with what many people believe is the best p4p fighter in the world.
      Most people consider Gonzalez to be the best P4P boxer in the world. What would you say if Golovkin called him out and decided to sit on his ass and do nothing until Gonzalez moved up to fight him?

      Different story then, huh?

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        #73
        Originally posted by Barcham
        Most people consider Gonzalez to be the best P4P boxer in the world. What would you say if Golovkin called him out and decided to sit on his ass and do nothing until Gonzalez moved up to fight him?

        Different story then, huh?
        Yes.. About a 46 lb difference in story. Not 6-8lbs. But agenda is there and if it fits yours then carry on.

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          #74
          Originally posted by mathed
          GGG weighed 170 in the ring last night. Ward would weight 182-185 against him in addition to the other advantages you listed.


          where's your verifying proof of this?


          the only fight night weight i can find from ward fights is the dawson fight, where he was 176. that fight was a long itme ago, but ti'st he only piece of data i can find, and certainly has more meaning than a bunch of biased bsceners acting liek andre ward will be 190 lbs in the ring.


          for instance, chavez JR is without a doubt a naturally larger man than ward. bigger on fight night, bigger walking around, has a documented instance where he took drugs to make weight.

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            #75
            Originally posted by New England
            ward's been in talks with kovalev, and would jump at a chance to fight golovkin. p4p fights are definitely taking backseat to andy lee and peter quillin
            Is there some mythical P4P title belt that I don't know about? Never in the history of boxing did anyone make fights based on P4P standings. P4P was always used as a way to theoretically figure out who the best fighter would be if they all fought at the same weight. Not to have P4P ranked fighters fight each other.

            People around here seem to have no idea what the basis for P4P rankings really is. Very sad to see. Not surprising, though. Boxing fans really are not that bright on average.

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              #76
              Originally posted by Barcham
              No bigger challenge for Ward than to sit on his ass for two years and now to wait after a middleweight to decide to fight him.

              Now THAT'S the path to true greatness. Picking on smaller fighters.

              Ward is actually fighting. Supposed to fight on the Cotto undercard, is in talks to fight Kovalev(you know, actually take on good fighters). You act as if Ward isn't a PROVEN fighter Serious question: Do you REALLY believe a Ward win would do nothing for GGG's resume or career?

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                #77
                Originally posted by Bipolar Hero
                Because Golovkin has and is still calling out an inactive Froch to fght at 168, yet Ward is too big for him LMFAO.

                All Ward fans have to do is brings up some simple facts, and the Golovturds will be forced to type paragraphs and paragraphs of emotional nonsense to defend their guy.

                It's quite amusing actually.
                no, Ward fans like to take things out of their proper timeline, and reframe them to favor their guy. Here is the REAL story..........

                For over 2 years, GGG could not land meaningful fights at middleweight, so they were willing to go outside the division. (Chavez, Froch)

                During that time, Ward was injured, or in court, Either way, he wasnt fighting.

                Ward then settles his legal issues and signs with Roc Nation. David Iskowitz then publicly says they are interested in GGG but Ward needs a few tuneups.

                GGG then gets the Lemieux unification signed, and is the mando for Cotto-Canelo winner. These are the middleweight unifications he has been trying to get for years.

                Then NOW here comes Ward, after doing garbage ratings against a dummy on BET, rattling his tin cup saying I'll fight GGG sometime next year at 50-50 split.

                Now who in their right mind would consider an absurd offer like that? Sure, we will skip the Cotto-Canelo winner, skip making north of $5 million and becoming lineal middleweight champ, so we can split 50-50 with a guy who has to give tickets away so the arena doesnt look empty.

                GTFOH with that nonsense man.......
                Last edited by OnePunch; 10-18-2015, 02:49 PM.

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by Barcham
                  Most people consider Gonzalez to be the best P4P boxer in the world. What would you say if Golovkin called him out and decided to sit on his ass and do nothing until Gonzalez moved up to fight him?

                  Different story then, huh?



                  holy f#cking sh#t are you getting pathetic


                  gonzales was a minimumweight, and is 5'3" tall! ward and golovkin are around 5-10 lbs apart on fight night.


                  sometimes people should just log off of bscene. the next step is the personal attack

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                    #79
                    Originally posted by Barcham
                    Is there some mythical P4P title belt that I don't know about? Never in the history of boxing did anyone make fights based on P4P standings. P4P was always used as a way to theoretically figure out who the best fighter would be if they all fought at the same weight. Not to have P4P ranked fighters fight each other.

                    People around here seem to have no idea what the basis for P4P rankings really is. Very sad to see. Not surprising, though. Boxing fans really are not that bright on average.



                    keep going man! i'll get you a shovel.


                    everybody quote this guy so his stuff gets as much publicity as possible. you're a f#cking train wreck

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                      #80
                      Originally posted by Rip Chudd
                      Ward is actually fighting. Supposed to fight on the Cotto undercard, is in talks to fight Kovalev(you know, actually take on good fighters). You act as if Ward isn't a PROVEN fighter Serious question: Do you REALLY believe a Ward win would do nothing for GGG's resume or career?
                      I didn't know that being 'supposed to fight' and 'in talks to fight' qualified as 'actually fighting'. Maybe we should also consider his battle in court to be 'actually fighting' as well?

                      Let me know when he gets back in the ring against a live body, not a Paul Smith.

                      Is Ward a PROVEN FIGHTER? Well... four years ago he was well on his way to becoming one but it seems he got sidetracked along the way and forgot to continue his boxing career.

                      An no, I do not think a Ward fight does anything at all for Golovkin until he has completed his job at middleweight and decides to move to SMW permanently. At that time, yes it will mean something as he will be fighting other super middleweight fighters for their titles as well.

                      But a non title fight against Ward while Golovkin is still fighting for MW titles does nothing to advance his goals at all. As for his resume, that is something to consider when his career is over, not in the middle of it.

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