Comments Thread For: GGG's Promoter: Anything Over 200K Buys is a Success

[OnePunch]

Duh! Sorry, I don't mean to seem hyped. I am always laughing. Nuance is hard to show in tab generated forum debate.

Ring has Lemieux ranked 4, doesn't that qualify GGG then? If he wins.

I dont think its retroactive. Both GGG-Lemieux and Lee-Saunders will have taken place by the time a decision is made by the Cotto-Canelo winner. Should the winner leave the division, the lineal title would then be vacant and they would go from that point in establishing a new lineage, not fights that took place a month or 2 before......

But unfortunately I believe that even if the winner of Cotto-Canelo vacates the WBC, I think they will stay at "middleweight" (155-157) for awhile and thus keep the lineal title.....

Just my opinion......

[Progrssive_Jedi]

I dont think its retroactive. Both GGG-Lemieux and Lee-Saunders will have taken place by the time a decision is made by the Cotto-Canelo winner. Should the winner leave the division, the lineal title would then be vacant and they would go from that point in establishing a new lineage, not fights that took place a month or 2 before......

But unfortunately I believe that even if the winner of Cotto-Canelo vacates the WBC, I think they will stay at "middleweight" (155-157) for awhile and thus keep the lineal title.....

Just my opinion......

Thanks, I didn't know it wasn't retro. I thought it was within 18 months.

You very well could be correct, but wouldn't that be bad for Canelo.

His entire excuse for vacating is pinned on him going back to 154. Not that most of his Mexican fan base will care. I'm not so sure about American fan base.

But if they are doing Rematches, then it won't matter.

I guess at least that lineal will still be meaningless.

[Reloaded]

I agree. 200k is a W. 300-350k puts him on par with future PPV giants Oscar, Floyd & Manny on their first dip into PPV. Anything better than 350k would be a fantastic outcome for K2 & GGG.

A Ward fight would generate at least double that and they have us believe its not viable .

[Cinci Champ]

200k might be a win but imo a ggg ward fight if promoted over a few months would get close to a million or maybe more. the build up for that fight would be so big not one boxing fan would miss it on the planet

[LoadedWraps]

200k might be a win but imo a ggg ward fight if promoted over a few months would get close to a million or maybe more. the build up for that fight would be so big not one boxing fan would miss it on the planet

I love my dude GGG, but there is no way, shape or form it does more than a Fury/Wilder HW unification bout if Wlad and Povetkin fall.

[Progrssive_Jedi]

No Way GGG/Ward does no Million right now

A Ward fight would generate at least double that and they have us believe its not viable .

No way it would. Not a chance. One is doing his first PPV. One is fighting on BET. Ward had issues selling out a stadium in his own state.

Boxing fans like us may be interested, but driving PPV is hard.

You couldn't sell that fight as exciting. Only one of the two excites, the other is boring as all hell.

200k might be a win but imo a ggg ward fight if promoted over a few months would get close to a million or maybe more. the build up for that fight would be so big not one boxing fan would miss it on the planet

A MILLION! No way!

People claim GGG isn't a superstar. Ward sure the he'll isn't selling anything. Ward couldn't even sell out a stadium in his own state. He got decent numbers for free fight on BET, but that was coupled with a concert and other things.

So either you two are admitting GGG can do some major numbers, or you think Ward has some pocket of supporters out there that have been dormant.

You all can't really think boxing comment board activity indicates how big a fight would be.

Ward is not a popular fighter.

And the more people who watch him, the more they realize his fights are boring to watch.

I think if GGG becomes the Superstar many think, and Ward gets his career back on track, it could be big some day.

But no way it's that big now.

And no way it's big money.

It may be big for hardcore fans, but neither guy can draw in a million ppv.

[Andre Ward]

Well I'm guessing in the 300k range a little bit over that. Golovkin still isn't known by the general public as much. Plus he's fighting Lemieux who I'm certain none of the casuals know. I expect low numbers. Hell Canelo's PPV didn't even hit the 500k mark I don't think. And that was after the Mayweather fight.

[bojangles1987]

That's pretty much true. If this PPV hit 400k, that would be a huge success.

[bojangles1987]

200k might be a win but imo a ggg ward fight if promoted over a few months would get close to a million or maybe more. the build up for that fight would be so big not one boxing fan would miss it on the planet

Nah, not even close. Very few fighters in boxing history have been capable of selling 1 million PPVs and neither Golovkin or Ward are capable of coming close. 500k would be the best case scenario for that fight, at least right now.

[Progrssive_Jedi]

Well I'm guessing in the 300k range a little bit over that. Golovkin still isn't known by the general public as much. Plus he's fighting Lemieux who I'm certain none of the casuals know. I expect low numbers. Hell Canelo's PPV didn't even hit the 500k mark I don't think. And that was after the Mayweather fight.

Low numbers is subjective. If this fight does 300,000 that would be a huge success. That's what Cotto or Canelo do by themselves. If it had done 500,000, which it won't, then he'd be on his way to the new PPV King.

Cotto/Canelo will do well, but for obvious reasons.