Comments Thread For: GGG's Promoter: Anything Over 200K Buys is a Success

[hitking]

If Cotto/Canelo vacate, then GGG will have 3/4 of the major titles at MW. It's hard to imagine he would be crowned the lineal champ.

Another competitor can take lineal championship by winning against the reigning lineal champion. That is what makes it different. He'll have three Champ belts.
The lineal champion has been described as "the man who beat the man." But if that "man" vacates to duck, then the lineal should go to GGG.

Nothing I've read seems to suggest otherwise.

As I suspected and called you on in another thread. You have no f.uck'n clue what a lineal title is.

[KnickTillDeaTh]

If they do 200,000, it will be success.

Considering this is first and the other PPV hardly do more than 350,000.

Cotto/Canelo probably does more, but two stars and two competing nations, kind of. Mexico versus Puerto Rico.



It's actually kind optimistic. GGG hasn't been popular that long.

If they do 200,000 for first PPV. It's a huge success.



They will sell more than hundred just by walk ups. That's why it's considered a sell out, because really they could sell thousands of tickets just on the night of the fight.

And your wrong about the seating this fight.

But even if you were not, Cotto has big name for a long time. It's a bad comparison.

The tickets sales for the Golovkin-Lemieuix fight broke MSG records. He'll sell the entire 20,789 seat MSG.

In fact, they sold more than 6,000 in the two-day day presale, beating the totals for tWladimir Klitschko-Bryant Jennings fight and the Cotto and Margarito, which drew a 21,239.

First, I didn't make the GGG to Cotto comparison, I was responding to a poster who already did. Second you are incorrect, How could GGG sell over 21k tickets at MSG when he hasn't even hit the 15k mark yet? Yes the seating for the GGG fight is set up for a little over 15k, the Garden seats just over 19k and Cotto fills it beyond capacity at just above 21k. These are all facts, you can give your "opinion" on them but they will still be facts. So in fact, GGG technically will not and has not sold out the Garden as of yet, GGG will more then likely sell out the seating arrangement. Maybe one day he will brake capacity at the Garden but it won't be this fight. Also, pre sale records are cool and it's definitely an achievement, but what does it really amount too? At the end of the day the event still isn't sold out, and the Garden is no where near capacity.

[Progrssive_Jedi]

Think this is the first time I've ever agreed with anything Team GGG has said publically. GGG has a lotta newbie fight fans as a core base that are totally delusional and unrealistic about his currrent "star power", or lack thereof. But for a fighter with little to no casual fanbase. Combined with a laughable mismatch against a glorified club fighter. That hardcore fans that aren't diehard fans of either fighter are unlikely to buy. 200K is a very solid number.

I've read two separate articles claiming GGG is on precipice of taking over PPV.

Will it happen, who knows. But you are underestimating how big he is getting.

As I suspected and called you on in another thread. You have no f.uck'n clue what a lineal title is.

I asked you a question. Of course you didn't answer, people like you never do.

I know most fighter keep it even after vacating you ****. But if Cotto vacates, he'll be retired, at least that is what I read. Maybe he moves to another weight class again. All reasons they can take the lineal title. My guess is they will take it.

Not that it matters. Because Canelo is gonna win, and he ducks GGG, it's because he moved to another weight class, back to 154. Which is what De La Hoya said. He said Canelo will likely go back to 154. That's grounds to take the lineal. If that's the case, they can also stripe him if that title.

So try to ****ing stay off you pedestal, you're not as smart as you think.

[deanrw]

This fight should not be PPV. GGG is popular, but not a super star. Lemieux is not widely known. It would have been a great regular HBO fight card, but we have to pay if we want to see it in high quality i guess.

I will see how I feel Saturday. I might get it, might not.

I like the fight, just sick and tired of PPV's. All they do is limit the audience and the sport. I have bought 1 PPV since last year. Just tired of them.

[Progrssive_Jedi]

First, I didn't make the GGG to Cotto comparison, I was responding to a poster who already did. Second you are incorrect, How could GGG sell over 21k tickets at MSG when he hasn't even hit the 15k mark yet? Yes the seating for the GGG fight is set up for a little over 15k, the Garden seats just over 19k and Cotto fills it beyond capacity at just above 21k. These are all facts, you can give your "opinion" on them but they will still be facts. So in fact, GGG technically will not and has not sold out the Garden as of yet, GGG will more then likely sell out the seating arrangement. Maybe one day he will brake capacity at the Garden but it won't be this fight. Also, pre sale records are cool and it's definitely an achievement, but what does it really amount too? At the end of the day the event still isn't sold out, and the Garden is no where near capacity.

They sold 15,000 by early August. It's October. You mean to tell me they've sold none since then?

http://www.boxingscene.com/golovkin-lemieux-15000-tickets-already-sold--94798

[Pigeons]

I've read two separate articles claiming GGG is on precipice of taking over PPV.

Will it happen, who knows. But you are underestimating how big he is getting.



I asked you a question. Of course you didn't answer, people like you never do.

I know most fighter keep it even after vacating you ****. But if Cotto vacates, he'll be retired, at least that is what I read. Maybe he moves to another weight class again. All reasons they can take the lineal title. My guess is they will take it.

Not that it matters. Because Canelo is gonna win, and he ducks GGG, it's because he moved to another weight class, back to 154. Which is what De La Hoya said. He said Canelo will likely go back to 154. That's grounds to take the lineal. If that's the case, they can also stripe him if that title.

So try to ****ing stay off you pedestal, you're not as smart as you think.

Is Golovkin going to fight the Jacobs-Quillin winner to reestablish the lineage in that case?

[hitking]

I've read two separate articles claiming GGG is on precipice of taking over PPV.

Will it happen, who knows. But you are underestimating how big he is getting.



I asked you a question. Of course you didn't answer, people like you never do.

I know most fighter keep it even after vacating you ****. But if Cotto vacates, he'll be retired, U.S. What I read. Maybe he moves to another weight class again. All reasons they can take the lineal title. My guess is they will take it.

Not that it matters. Because Canelo is gonna win, and he ducks GGG, it's because he moved to another weight class, back to 154. Which is what De La Hoya said. He said Canelo will likely go back to 154. That's grounds to take the lineal. If that's the case, they can also stripe him if that title.

So try to ****ing stay off you pedestal, your not as smart as you think.

With every passing long winded monologue, you expose your self as even more clueless. A guy can't be stripped of a lineal title. And there's really no set criteria to filling a "vacancy." Hell, its technically not even a real title. Its just something that was kinda created within the boxing community as an attempt to lessen confusion with all the corrupt ABC groups. You can have every belt, and not be the lineal champ. Case in point I'd Roy Jones' reign at light heavyweight. Dude had about 15 belts, but was never the lineal champ. The lineal title doesn't mean ****. I'm pretty sure the lineal welterweight title didn't mean a damn thing to you when Floyd fought Baldomir for it. And the more seasoned you become as a fight fan you'll realize. The fighter makes the title, not really visa versa. GGG is already viewed universally as the belt middleweight on the planet. So him collecting paper trinkets from cab drivers and blown up jr middleweights isn't gonna impress those who put more weight on what happens in the ring, opposed to some belt.

[Progrssive_Jedi]

Is Golovkin going to fight the Jacobs-Quillin winner to reestablish the lineage in that case?

Well Lee said he wants to fight GGG, and unify. And GGG will have 3 belts by then, according to plan.

That would be my guess.

[Pigeons]

Well Lee said he wants to fight GGG, and unify. And GGG will have 3 belts by then, according to plan.

That would be my guess.

That would be a disputed lineage. RING has Lee #2, Quillin #3. TBRB has Quillin #2, Lee #3. Their fight didn't separate them. Hard to make a case for either guy over the other when comparing resumes. Lee has been stopped twice at MW (Vera, Chavez Jr.). His best win is Korobov, hard to see a 2nd decent win on his resume (Vera rematch?). Quillin is undefeated and has beaten an old Winky, N'Jikam, and is facing Jacobs later this year. He does have a few secondary wins that are better than Lee's resume minus Korobov like Guerrero and Rosado.

I have to go with TBRB on this one though, due to the RING inherent HBO bias being associated with Oscar De La Hoya.

[hitking]

They sold 15,000 by early August. It's October. You mean to tell me they've sold none since then?

http://www.boxingscene.com/golovkin-...dy-sold--94798

I live in a part of the country where boxing isn't very popular. I've attended two fights this year. Wilder-Molina and Broner's last fight. And the GGG-Lemieux ticket prices are very comparable to those events. And I sat pretty much ringside for $50. In comparison, nosebleeds for Cotto-Canelo were about $200 on the open market. And its pretty much impossible to get the tix on the open market. The casinos have bought them all up and gonna sell them double and triple face value. Not to mention hotel rooms are gonna be about $1000 a night. GGG's popularity is growing. But a lotta these numbers he's doing are skewed because he's basically doing it at an extremely cheap rate.