Comments Thread For: Video: Abel Sanchez on GGG, Matthysse, Andre Ward

[aboutfkntime]

Kov is a power puncher there is no doubting that , Ward is a master boxer there is no doubting that , you cannot compare the winning styles and say one is better because he beat a guy using a method he is renown for .

Some of the arguments in here make no sense Kov cant box guys like Ward can and Ward cant KO guys like Kov can , means fck all when they fight each other because of how the styles mesh on the night , Floyd has got to have taught you guys power is nothing if it doesnt land , they both elite champions that will make for a very interesting match .

I must one of a few I really like Ward Kov and GGG pretty much equally and see fault in all of them .

That is right !

And I'm a bit the same, I ride with Ward, because I have been doing so for years, but I like Golovkin and Kovalev, especially Kovalev.

[aboutfkntime]

Just on the styles thing.....

Pacquiao beat Hatton better than Mayweather did, right ?

Pacquiao vs Hatton.....
Expected outcome: Pacquiao KO
Actual outcome: Pacquiao KO
Evaluation: Pacquiao met expectations, albiet in outstanding fashion

Mayweather vs Hatton.....
Expected outcome: UD12
Actual outcome: Mayweather KO
Evaluation: Mayweather exceeded expectations

Summary: Pac met expectations, albiet in outstanding fashion, but Mayweather exceeded expectations.

Some folks will go to their grave insisting that Pacquiao performed much better than Mayweather against Hatton..... but if you understand the boxing landscape, and factor in that Mayweather fought a tougher version of Hatton..... you can see that boxing is not always that simple.

Its about undertanding the game, especially styles/levels.

Its like Canelo..... you guys who have chosen to label him a middleweight because he weighs 155 are pretty silly..... take a step back and a deep breath, boxing is not that simple.

[kafkod]

Kov is a power puncher there is no doubting that , Ward is a master boxer there is no doubting that , you cannot compare the winning styles and say one is better because he beat a guy using a method he is renown for .

Some of the arguments in here make no sense Kov cant box guys like Ward can and Ward cant KO guys like Kov can , means fck all when they fight each other because of how the styles mesh on the night , Floyd has got to have taught you guys power is nothing if it doesnt land , they both elite champions that will make for a very interesting match .

I must one of a few I really like Ward Kov and GGG pretty much equally and see fault in all of them .

Floyd never fought anybody who was bigger than him with the same blend of power, skill, and range that Kovalev has. Oscar was the closest to that, but, p4p, Kovalev hits much harder than Oscar. And does Ward take a punch as well as Floyd did?

I don't think so.

You can make your head hard to hit, but not your body. Kovalev throws lots of long, fast jabs to the body, aimed at the heart or solar plexus, then whips the right hand in upstairs when his opponent's hands drop.

The constant punishment he dishes out to the opponents body at long range saps their energy and makes them try and come in close for respite, and that's when he nails them with the power punches.

[kafkod]

No, Hopkins stated that they could not fight..... but Ward stated that they absolutely could fight no problem, so long as that fight made financial sense.

I remember it very clearly.

And, Kovalev and Ward have completely different styles..... the outcome of their (potential) fight against Hopkins would have no bearing on the outcome of a Kovalev/Ward matchup.

Kovalev made Hopkins look old in that fight. 40yo Hopkins may have been able to do what 50yo Hopkins could not.

Ward is a proven liar. You shouldn't take anything he says seriously. If he ever signs to fight Kovalev, then we can start talking about who's going to win.

[aboutfkntime]

Ward is a proven liar. You shouldn't take anything he says seriously. If he ever signs to fight Kovalev, then we can start talking about who's going to win.

Well, he said it..... Andre Ward Would Consider Facing Bernard Hopkins

http://www.boxingscene.com/andre-ward-consider-facing-bernard-hopkins--63289

The point is, styles make fights..... there is a reason why Hopkins wanted nothing to do with Ward, but had no problem facing Kovalev..... and Hopkins is better equipped to deal with Ward than Kovalev is.

[kafkod]

Well, he said it..... Andre Ward Would Consider Facing Bernard Hopkins

http://www.boxingscene.com/andre-ward-consider-facing-bernard-hopkins--63289

The point is, styles make fights..... there is a reason why Hopkins wanted nothing to do with Ward, but had no problem facing Kovalev..... and Hopkins is better equipped to deal with Ward than Kovalev is.

BHop had no problem facing Kovalev ... until the bell rang for round one.

Clearly, he made a mistake taking the fight, and if he'd known he was was going to get schooled like that, he would have avoided Kovalev in the same way as YOU are suggesting he avoided Ward, and for the same reason.

[BlackSoul]

Just on the styles thing.....

Pacquiao beat Hatton better than Mayweather did, right ?

Pacquiao vs Hatton.....
Expected outcome: Pacquiao KO
Actual outcome: Pacquiao KO
Evaluation: Pacquiao met expectations, albiet in outstanding fashion

Mayweather vs Hatton.....
Expected outcome: UD12
Actual outcome: Mayweather KO
Evaluation: Mayweather exceeded expectations

Summary: Pac met expectations, albiet in outstanding fashion, but Mayweather exceeded expectations.

Some folks will go to their grave insisting that Pacquiao performed much better than Mayweather against Hatton..... but if you understand the boxing landscape, and factor in that Mayweather fought a tougher version of Hatton..... you can see that boxing is not always that simple.

Its about undertanding the game, especially styles/levels.

Its like Canelo..... you guys who have chosen to label him a middleweight because he weighs 155 are pretty silly..... take a step back and a deep breath, boxing is not that simple.

good breakdown mane

[BlackSoul]

BHop had no problem facing Kovalev ... until the bell rang for round one.

Clearly, he made a mistake taking the fight, and if he'd known he was was going to get schooled like that, he would have avoided Kovalev in the same way as YOU are suggesting he avoided Ward, and for the same reason.

B Hop at 45(the one who beat Antonio Tarver) beats prime kovalev
while i give respect to kov for beating B Hop come on B Hop was ***50))) YEARS OLD nobody as a boxing analyzer would say kov would FUNDAMENTALLY beat a younger B Hop much less a PRIME B Hop.

Andre Ward is basically a Prime B Hop and will beat kov SOUNDLY and RESOUNDINGLY styles make fights and being honest with more fights under his belt i believe that the beterbiev cat has a higher ceiling than kovalev as far as a prospect goes

[aboutfkntime]

BHop had no problem facing Kovalev ... until the bell rang for round one.

Clearly, he made a mistake taking the fight, and if he'd known he was was going to get schooled like that, he would have avoided Kovalev in the same way as YOU are suggesting he avoided Ward, and for the same reason.

Hopkins got old in that fight.

Matchmaking is about styles.

A younger Hopkins would have been on the button.

Hopkins jumped on Kovalev, just like he jumped on Pavlik.

The mind was willing, the body wasn't.

It is what it is.

[kafkod]

B Hop at 45(the one who beat Antonio Tarver) beats prime kovalev
while i give respect to kov for beating B Hop come on B Hop was ***50))) YEARS OLD nobody as a boxing analyzer would say kov would FUNDAMENTALLY beat a younger B Hop much less a PRIME B Hop.

Andre Ward is basically a Prime B Hop and will beat kov SOUNDLY and RESOUNDINGLY styles make fights and being honest with more fights under his belt i believe that the beterbiev cat has a higher ceiling than kovalev as far as a prospect goes

Kovalev didn't just beat BHop, he completely outclassed him, schooled him, whatever you want to call it. Nothing there to suggest the result would have been any different if Bhop had been 45, 35, or 25. He would still have been up against a man who was bigger, stronger and more powerful than him, with the skill and nouse to make those physical advantages tell.

Andre Ward isn't basically a prime Hopkins, any more than Kovalev was basically another Kelly Pavlic, as some people deludedly believed.

Andre Ward is Andre Ward, and nobody else. And Andre Ward will never beat Kovalev, because he isn't going to take the risk of fighting him. Ward is not like BHop, not at all.