Abel Sanchez - "Andre Ward's a liar"

[OnePunch]

Why couldn't Golovkin come to an agreement with Ward the same way Kovalev has?

because Kovalev loses nothing in the deal. He stays in the same division, keeps his same titles, etc, and if the ward fight happens, fine, and if it doesnt, thats fine too. His career is not impacted.

GGG would have given up his mando spot to cotto-canelo winner, his IBF title, and for what?

[OnePunch]

Exactly. People are ******ed thinking Golovkin should sign to fight Ward in July of 2015 for a fight a year away after agreeing to step aside for Cotto-Canelo on the premise that they have winner. Why on earth would they want to put that aside? Even if you believe the winner isn't going to fight and will get stripped, it's at the very least worth waiting to see what happens before doing anything else.

Golovkin has been fighting his way to the top to get his shot, Ward comes out of a mini retirement from boxing, fights Paul Smith and expects to have a Golovkin fight next year by asking to fight in July of 2015? Dafuq? All the while he's moving up to 175. Makes little sense.

"but but but but abel said 154-168 doe"

lol @ these idiots

[-MEGA-]

because Kovalev loses nothing in the deal. He stays in the same division, keeps his same titles, etc, and if the ward fight happens, fine, and if it doesnt, thats fine too. His career is not impacted.

GGG would have given up his mando spot to cotto-canelo winner, his IBF title, and for what?

Why would ggg have given up all that if he just did a one off?

[Dirk Diggler UK]

because Kovalev loses nothing in the deal. He stays in the same division, keeps his same titles, etc, and if the ward fight happens, fine, and if it doesnt, thats fine too. His career is not impacted.

GGG would have given up his mando spot to cotto-canelo winner, his IBF title, and for what?

No he wouldn't have. Why do you keep saying that?

Kovalev and Ward are going to have at least 1 or 2 fights before they face each other.

A similar agreement with Ward and Golovkin could have been arranged if Golovkin's side were willing but they didn't want it.

Plain as day.

[jqSide]

Wow. The GG-hating members keep using Ward for their hateful agenda. Funny part was Ward himself didn't display any interest in the fight. It was presented to him multiple times, but didn't do anything about it until the last minute when he was pressured to do something. He made his offer aware of the fact that GG is already set to fight Lemiux. Who the hell does that?

Who in boxing history makes an offer to a guy who is already fighting someone? What if the guy loses? It's so stoopid. You can tell it's a fake offer.

Another funny part is they keep saying GG ducked Ward, when it's the exact opposite. Likewise, why would it be considered ducking when Ward is not even in your division? So stoopid.

[OnePunch]

No he wouldn't have. Why do you keep saying that?

Kovalev and Ward are going to have at least 1 or 2 fights before they face each other.

A similar agreement with Ward and Golovkin could have been arranged if Golovkin's side were willing but they didn't want it.

Plain as day.

did you not read your buddy Kev's post where he referenced the statement from Iskowitz? 1 interim fight (Lemieux), and then they meet.

That would have meant he was "unavailable" for the Cotto-Canelo winner, and unable to do his IBF mando in time, thus he would have been stripped.

You really shouldnt comment on this stuff as its obvious you havent the slighted facking idea what you're talking about

[HeroBando]

Roc Nation COO David Itskowitch response after K2 accused them of making an offer when the Lemiuex fight was already signed:

http://www.boxingscene.com/roc-nation-gggs-team-turned-down-ward-36-minutes--96761

October 9 2015

"The offer was very, very clear.....They would fight eacother some time in the first half of 2016....So obviously the Lemiuex fight would continue to go forward and the Ward fight would be in 2016."

K2, Abel Sanchez are making it out to be as if Roc Nation sent the offer for Golovkin to leave the Lemiuex title fight and instead fight Ward in 2015. Which was from the case, and is a very dishonest thing to do. Abel Sanchez is not lying when he says the offer was made when the Lemiuex fight was signed. What they are being dishonest about is disclosing that the offer would not interfere with the Lemiuex fight, and the Lemiuex fight irrelevant to the offer, and the offer was for 2016. That's very dishonest.

So they wanted Ggg to commit for when his Canelo mando was due. That's a joke, right, never mind at 50/50

[HeroBando]

No he wouldn't have. Why do you keep saying that?

Kovalev and Ward are going to have at least 1 or 2 fights before they face each other.

A similar agreement with Ward and Golovkin could have been arranged if Golovkin's side were willing but they didn't want it.

Plain as day.

The guy just posted a quote from RN COO, first half of 2016. That's when the Canelo mando is due, a non starter

[Dirk Diggler UK]

did you not read your buddy Kev's post where he referenced the statement from Iskowitz? 1 interim fight (Lemieux), and then they meet.

That would have meant he was "unavailable" for the Cotto-Canelo winner, and unable to do his IBF mando in time, thus he would have been stripped.

You really shouldnt comment on this stuff as its obvious you havent the slighted facking idea what you're talking about

The guy just posted a quote from RN COO, first half of 2016. That's when the Canelo mando is due, a non starter

When is this mythical fight with Canelo supposed to happen??

Nothing wrong with K2 telling Roc Nation that they would want to fight Canelo in May (?) and to push back the Ward fight to the second half of 2016.

Of course, they didn't do that. They rejected it in 5 minutes and said "maybe 2017".

[OnePunch]

Why would ggg have given up all that if he just did a one off?

because had he committed to Lemieux and then Ward, here's what would have happened:

After Saturdays fight, the winner (canelo) would immediately claim they are interested in doing the mando, but GGG is "unavailable", as he is committed to the Ward fight. They would be 100% correct, and very smart in doing so, regardless of whether or not they had any real intention of fighting GGG. The WBC would have no choice but to strip GGG of the interim title, as he was unable to participate in the mandatory challenge, as he was contracturally obligated to Ward.

Also, with the Ward fight likely taking place in spring / summer 2016, GGG would not have enough time to do the IBF mando with Tureano Johnson, and would be stripped. The IBF only allows mandatory defenses to be delayed for unification bouts, and the Ward fight obviously would not have been a unification.

Therefore, had he accpted the Ward deal, he would have lost the WBC interim title, his mandatory status to cotto-canelo winner, and the IBF title.


But all the GGG hate squad can say is "but but but abel said doe".

Its pathetic