Abel Sanchez - "Andre Ward's a liar"

[Dirk Diggler UK]

trick question, because it completely ignores the canelo situation. IF there was NO possibility of a 160 unification ultimately happening, then GGG is probably wasting time at 160 and might as well move up for Ward, or whoever else.

However, if doing Johnson and Lee in 2016 was part of a Canelo unification process, then I'd be ok with it.

It's not a "trick question".

It's a simple question. Which would you rather see in 2016 after Canelo?

GGG-Johnson in an IBF mando and GGG vs. Lee in a unification at 160.

Or GGG vs. Andre Ward for the lineal championship at 168.

Pick one.

[OnePunch]

I cant construct anything positive until you stop lying to yourself. the truth of the matter is that ggg could have fought ward if he wanted and not lose out on anything your claiming. then go back down and rule MW until whenever. He would have never been put in this position if it wasnt for Able's big lying mouth. He got his bluff called and thats that. Cool, go on about your business ggg...but what a dissapointment.

that is a complete falsehood, and would have been 100% impossible to do. But hey, keep believing it was possible, as that fantasy supports your position.

[OnePunch]

It's not a "trick question".

It's a simple question. Which would you rather see?

GGG-Johnson in an IBF mando and GGG vs. Lee in a unification at 160.

Or GGG vs. Andre Ward for the lineal championship at 168.

Pick one.

in that limited scenario, probably GGG-Ward at 168.

But thats not the choice we are presented with. Lets ask the ACTUAL question that is really out there.

Which fight would you prefer for 2016:

GGG-Johnson and then possibly GGG-Canelo

or GGG-Ward

I'll tell you this. I choose even the possibility of a canelo fight over the ward fight. Every day of the week and twice on Sunday

[Dirk Diggler UK]

in that limited scenario, probably GGG-Ward at 168.

But thats not the choice we are presented with. Lets ask the ACTUAL question that is really out there.

Which fight would you prefer for 2016:

GGG-Johnson and then possibly GGG-Canelo

or GGG-Ward

I'll tell you this. I choose even the possibility of a canelo fight over the ward fight.

How, when and why would he fight Johnson before Canelo?

A Canelo fight would be in May and would be a unification which supersedes a mandatory.

So Canelo in May and Ward later in the year.

What's the issue?

[OnePunch]

How, when and why would he fight Johnson before Canelo?

A Canelo fight would be in May and would be a unification which supersedes a mandatory.

So Canelo in May and Ward later in the year.

What's the issue?

because I dont think he will get Canelo in May. (I hope he does, but I doubt it) I suspect Canelo will offer a deal to fight someone else on cinco de mayo, and fight GGG in Sept. In the meantime GGG gets rid of the IBF mando and tries to get the Lee-Saunders winner. But who knows what Canelo will do? Maybe he'll vacate. Maybe itll go to purse bid. We will know in the next 15 days......

[Dirk Diggler UK]

because I dont think he will get Canelo in May. (I hope he does, but I doubt it) I suspect Canelo will offer a deal to fight someone else on cinco de mayo, and fight GGG in Sept. In the meantime GGG gets rid of the IBF mando and tries to get the Lee-Saunders winner. But who knows what Canelo will do? Maybe he'll vacate. Maybe itll go to purse bid. We will know in the next 15 days......

So GGG is allowed to continue fighting cream puffs in the "hope" that Canelo will fight him.

[-MEGA-]

that is a complete falsehood, and would have been 100% impossible to do. But hey, keep believing it was possible, as that fantasy supports your position.

Well this is where we differ in opinion. Care to elobarate on why he couldnt have?

[OnePunch]

Well this is where we differ in opinion. Care to elobarate on why he couldnt have?

I already laid out a pretty comprehensive scenario of why it wasnt possible, as I have dealt with sanctioning bodies personally, and am pretty familiar with their rules and procedures.

You disagreed.

Its a free country brother. You can believe whatever you like. If you think its possible he could have pulled off the Ward deal and still kept his 160 titles and position, then you're alot smarter than me because I can see NO WAY that its possible.

[HeroBando]

When is this mythical fight with Canelo supposed to happen??

Nothing wrong with K2 telling Roc Nation that they would want to fight Canelo in May (?) and to push back the Ward fight to the second half of 2016.

Of course, they didn't do that. They rejected it in 5 minutes and said "maybe 2017".

Why would you commit to any number before fighting Canelo, never mind 50/50? If Canelo happens in May, Ward is lucky to get 25%. Obvious scam

[OnePunch]

So GGG is allowed to continue fighting cream puffs in the "hope" that Canelo will fight him.

right, because Im sure its his preference to NOT get the Canelo fight.

Dude, you are something else......