Comments Thread For: Arum: Garcia Got Gifts, Not Competitive For Pacquiao

[thack]

Well he's right about that. Garcia wouldn't even beat Khan again.

Did you see the first fight ?

[Raonic]

Did you see the first fight ?

The one 4 years ago? Yea.

Your point?

[KnickTillDeaTh]

Never realized facts about his ratings going down from Peterson to Paulie were so funny...

There's more to selling a fight than just a regular following. There's obviously going to be less viewers is people don't think a fight will be competitive. That's what sells a fight... You're obviously not going to buy a fight if you aren't impressed by a fighter and don't think it's worth to watch. We literally saw that with Floyd-Berto, Manny-Rios, Manny-Algieri. And clearly by his performance, many people will obviously and naturally change their views on how well Danny can make it competitive.

Bob himself wanted the fight last year but changed his mind and blamed his performance. So clearly he's one of the many who don't have the same views about Danny as before.

Lol, ok, so you use the Peterson ratings vs the Malignaggi ratings to prove that Danny Garcia is the reason why the ratings suffered, yet you say people thinking Garcia stands no chance against Pac is the reason why the fight would sell less. So let me get this straight, people thinking Malignaggi had no chance has nothing to do with those ratings? You see, you dont even believe your own theory. Garcia vs mayweather does higher numbers then Berto. Garcia vs Pac does more than any iteration of Pac vs Rios, Algieri, Matthysse,Khan.

Please stop using Arum as an example of your unsupported points, no one believes what he says, and his most famous quote is "yesterday i was lying, bu today im telling the truth." The only reason why Arum is even considering Khan, is because Khan supposedly works with Haymon on a fight by fight basis, which means a deal can be negotiated with out the inclusion of Haymon, this is the real reason Garcia is not being considered. The fact that you dont understand that is very amusing.

[thack]

Seems like Bob 'Yesterday I was lying today Im telling the truth' Arum has made a deal with glass jaw as in times gone by that's exactly what Bob has called Khan.
Fans and networks alike will now find that Khan has not got a massive uk (England) following that he lies he has.There was a good indication of his 'massive' following with the handful of 'fans' that turned out for his 'spectacular ' win against then twice recently hammered Alexander.
It's not nice to see such a limited fighter as Khan get a payday as he is just by talking and especially given the crap he comes out with. I only hope that Manny shows the world what a real fraud ole glass jaw is and that he doesn't get the roll on pension money from Brook.
As for Manny given the excuses he came out with regards injury after the Floyd fight I hope this is looked at the way it really should be , a easy fight coming back from injury.

[Bigg Rigg]

Well he's right about that. Garcia wouldn't even beat Khan again.

Are you kidding me??? Danny Knocks Khan the **** out. Again! Garcia literally ruined him. And the Only gift Danny got was vs Herrera. Lamont gave away the 6-7 rounds doing nothing but then he whipped Garcia's ass at the end. That's not how you win a 12 round decision in Boxing.

[Raonic]

Lol, ok, so you use the Peterson ratings vs the Malignaggi ratings to prove that Danny Garcia is the reason why the ratings suffered, yet you say people thinking Garcia stands no chance against Pac is the reason why the fight would sell less. So let me get this straight, people thinking Malignaggi had no chance has nothing to do with those ratings? You see, you dont even believe your own theory.

If you were actually smarter, you'd get the point and clearly it's not a "one or the other" thing like you're making it out to be. Read that paragraph for a second and tell me if you're making any sense because what you're spewing about Paulie, I never said.

I literally said, and please follow along, that the decline in viewer ship was probably partially because Garcia's past performances (I never said that Paulie didn't have a factor) weren't very good and that's obviously going to carry on if he were to fight Pacquiao. I understand Paulie isn't exactly a great fighter, but I have absolutely no doubt Danny actually had better performances before, he could have drawn much more viewers than he actually did. I've seen fighters face "bums" and still draw impressively high viewership. Danny didn't do that so the "advantage" he has just because he's American isn't exactly obvious. Khan fought on Friday night Spike and got like 1.12 viewers against an MMA card. Garcia was under 1.5 viewers on ESPN saturday night.

Please stop using Arum as an example of your unsupported points, no one believes what he says, and his most famous quote is "yesterday i was lying, bu today im telling the truth." The only reason why Arum is even considering Khan, is because Khan supposedly works with Haymon on a fight by fight basis, which means a deal can be negotiated with out the inclusion of Haymon, this is the real reason Garcia is not being considered. The fact that you dont understand that is very amusing.

Well I'm not biased so I don't pick and choose my points like you. I'm going to take his statement as is. Even if that was the case, the great part is everything I said was right about competitiveness, money, etc. So not really a big deal what the "actual reason" is according to you.

[Raonic]

Are you kidding me??? Danny Knocks Khan the **** out. Again! Garcia literally ruined him. And the Only gift Danny got was vs Herrera. Lamont gave away the 6-7 rounds doing nothing but then he whipped Garcia's ass at the end. That's not how you win a 12 round decision in Boxing.

I don't deny Danny can KO Amir. I'm saying I don't think he'll do it.

Even if he didn't lose against Peterson (though there were probably as much people who thought he lost than thought he won but either way, not what I want to argue), he clearly didn't look impressive so I'm obviously not going to be interested if he's going to face a much superior fighter. If he builds himself up again, then I'll be more inclined to believe he's a competitive fight for Manny.

[DannYankee]

Just a couple of gifts overall he is a worthy guy... You telling me Rios was more legit or fking let the dogs out Algiery? FOH Arum.

[thack]

The one 4 years ago? Yea.

Your point?

Garcia has looked strong at the weight and Khan has done nothing other than pick light small guys which shows where his team know they are at .
Garcia got Khan going from pillar to post with a punch to the neck.......do you get my point ?

[Raonic]

Garcia has looked strong at the weight and Khan has done nothing other than pick light small guys which shows where his team know they are at .
Garcia got Khan going from pillar to post with a punch to the neck.......do you get my point ?

Doesn't change anything I said. I didn't just randomly form an opinion without considering that... I know Garcia's a good fighter. I don't think the same result will just happen again.