Reasons why Roman "Chocolatito" Gonzalez is #1 P4P.

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  • SlySlickSmooth
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    #61
    Originally posted by Willy Wanker
    So, will Viloria be p4p #1 after he knocks out Gonzalez?
    No it just means he had his number. But a win over Gonzalez is easily a better win than Brook's over Porter and The Ring has Brook at P4P #10 so you could argue that Viloria enters the P4P list, Gonzalez drops, and someone like Kovalev could take the #1 spot.

    Kovalev could possibly take his spot at #1 if he beats Stevenson and Gonzalez loses.

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    • SlySlickSmooth
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      #62
      Originally posted by Sterling Archer
      that's not my point of contention.

      Canelo Alvarez beat lara. not the other way around.
      Originally posted by Left Hook Tua
      actually he is arguing your point.

      he's saying estrada (WHO ROMAN BEAT) is better than lara (WHO CANELO BEAT)

      juan francisco estrada - current #1 contender at flyweight
      juan francisco estrada - current WBA and WBO champion
      juan francisco estrada - who just beat viloria, melindo and segura

      yeah that estrada.

      Ah well, Archer got banned. Lol.

      The CAPS LOCK KING and professional HATER in DA LOUNGE!!! LOL!!!

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      • Jc8804
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        #63
        43 have teied ,43 have failed.

        Going for the record baby. 3 years away

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        • Sparked_26
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          #64
          Tyson Fury would knock him smooth out.

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          • BodiesInFlight
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            #65
            Originally posted by SlySlickSmooth
            Ah well, Archer got banned. Lol.

            The CAPS LOCK KING and professional HATER in DA LOUNGE!!! LOL!!!
            He wanted out.

            Suicide by moderator

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            • Syf
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              #66
              Originally posted by Left Hook Tua
              minimum and straw is same division.

              what power balance are you talking about?

              a lot of ppl had choco #2 BEFORE mayweather retired (INCLUDING BOXINGSCENE). so wtf are you on about really? it's like you just discovered roman was on the p4p list.
              That's how much I could care less....

              If any of those three were recognized as p4p #1 they could use it as leverage in negotiations. Being able to say you are recognized as p4p #1 is huge for a fighter. Floyd used that and his 0 to build this mystique about him that generated millions. Roman IS a safe option. He will never be a financial marvel.. he won't shift the power balance in boxing. The truth is not enough people care about the lowest weights, myself included.

              I'm aware dude been on people's "imaginary list" for a while now ... but not that long in the scheme of things.

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              • Syf
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                #67
                And the p4p list altogether is farcical. The premise is ******ed. How can a heavyweight move the same as a flyweight, and vice versa? If you took Wladimir and shrunk him down to 112, he WOULD be faster with better movement, energy, and speed. That's just physics. If you took Roman and made him 230+, he'd be slower and less active. That's also physics.
                Seems to me it's just a vehicle to validate America's frustration with the higher weight divisions. Roman is being used as a placeholder till another marketable cash cow comes along.

                But w/e. Do u

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                • ИATAS
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                  #68
                  It's just temporary, I'm not even worried about it. This stuff happens every now and then. Remember they put Calzaghe all the way to #2, some places even #1, for a couple of months after Floyd retired. Sometimes when that happens and there is suddenly no longer a clear #1 whacky things may happen with these fantasy rankings. Everyone would put Ward #1 but he took off too much time and hasn't beat anyone good in years, so down the list they go. Pacquiao would be the logical pick, but he's clearly not as good anymore and he didn't look good against Floyd, so down the list they to further. Golovkin, Canelo, Bradley, etc all have reasons why they shouldn't be, so they found some guy who's undefeated, looks great and has a couple of solid wins. In by default.

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                  • Left Hook Tua
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by Syf
                    That's how much I could care less....

                    If any of those three were recognized as p4p #1 they could use it as leverage in negotiations. Being able to say you are recognized as p4p #1 is huge for a fighter. Floyd used that and his 0 to build this mystique about him that generated millions. Roman IS a safe option. He will never be a financial marvel.. he won't shift the power balance in boxing. The truth is not enough people care about the lowest weights, myself included.

                    I'm aware dude been on people's "imaginary list" for a while now ... but not that long in the scheme of things.
                    yeah except media writers have no say in negotiations or financial matters.

                    your theory is pretty ****** tbh.

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                    • Left Hook Tua
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Syf
                      And the p4p list altogether is farcical. The premise is ******ed. How can a heavyweight move the same as a flyweight, and vice versa? If you took Wladimir and shrunk him down to 112, he WOULD be faster with better movement, energy, and speed. That's just physics. If you took Roman and made him 230+, he'd be slower and less active. That's also physics.
                      Seems to me it's just a vehicle to validate America's frustration with the higher weight divisions. Roman is being used as a placeholder till another marketable cash cow comes along.

                      But w/e. Do u
                      america's frustration with the higher weight division?

                      the term P4P came about around sugar ray ROBINSON era.

                      RING started its official P4P list 1989-1990.

                      the top heavyweights around that time was tyson, holyfield, bowe, witherspoon, old foreman, etc. mostly americans.

                      why do you say ****** ass crap based on absolutely nothing?

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