Beating Paul Smith earns you the number 2 spot on a P4P list...

[Hype job]

There is no what ifs. He's defeated Froch, Kessler, Abraham and others. You don't want him on the list because you are a GGG fan. That's why going back and forth is pointless.

LOL @ trying to tell Ward what "he needs to do". He doesn't need to do anything because everybody already knows what he's capable of because he's proven it. At this stage it's just an issue of whether the layoff has affected him at all.

Boxing is about what you have done lately. We may aswell have Pac number 1 based off past achievements if that's your criteria for ranking fighters p4p.

[SUBZER0ED]

You could say virtually the same about Rigondeuax....is he not one of the best in the world?

Boxing fans are ***ing spastics.

Maybe to you, he is. He's had 15 fights & has hardly been tested enough to know just how good he really is. His biggest wins are Agbeko, who lost nearly every time he faced top competition, Donaire, who relies too heavily on his left hook & struggles with boxers, & overrated, exposed Ramos. Besides that, we're talking about Ward. Stop trying to divert to support your weak argument.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Maybe to you, he is. He's had 15 fights & has hardly been tested enough to know just how good he really is. His biggest wins are Agbeko, who lost nearly every time he faced top competition, Donaire, who relies too heavily on his left hook & struggles with boxers, & overrated, exposed Ramos. Besides that, we're talking about Ward. Stop trying to divert to support your weak argument.

Post your top 10 please.

[-PBP-]

Boxing is about what you have done lately. We may aswell have Pac number 1 based off past achievements if that's your criteria for ranking fighters p4p.

Boxing is based on opinions. You can use whatever ****ing criteria you want. It's fictional.

[BigAlexSand]

Disagree because of lack of activity! Outside of that, Ward in my view is one big win away from#1 But will that big fight occur anytime soon? Doubtful!

[SUBZER0ED]

Post your top 10 please.

Diverting once again, I see. Ward was an up and coming star when he dropped out for nearly 2 years, NOT a superstar. He's had 2 big wins in the past 4 years. HBO, whom he had a rather cuddly relationship with, refused to pay for him to fight Paul Smith on their network, as did apparently every other sports airing network. I'm not saying he's not a good fighter, but in order to be #2 P4P in 2015, his biggest wins need to be more recent than 3 & 4 years ago. In fact, he really only has beaten 1 great fighter in Froch, who has consistently remained a champion against top opposition. Andre's high ranking is a marketing ploy, meant to re-ignite his career after the lay-off. I suspect that he's not a good as some of you think he is, and he will very carefully pick his next opponents.

[Hype job]

Boxing is based on opinions. You can use whatever ****ing criteria you want. It's fictional.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Diverting once again, I see. Ward was an up and coming star when he dropped out for nearly 2 years, NOT a superstar. He's had 2 big wins in the past 4 years. HBO, whom he had a rather cuddly relationship with, refused to pay for him to fight Paul Smith on their network, as did apparently every other sports airing network. I'm not saying he's not a good fighter, but in order to be #2 P4P in 2015, his biggest wins need to be more recent than 3 & 4 years ago. In fact, he really only has beaten 1 great fighter in Froch, who has consistently remained a champion against top opposition. Andre's high ranking is a marketing ploy, meant to re-ignite his career after the lay-off. I suspect that he's not a good as some of you think he is, and he will very carefully pick his next opponents.

What am I diverting exactly? According to you, Andre Ward and Rigondeuax aren't among the top 10 fighters in the world. I disagree. You're entitled to your opinion. So please tell me who beats them to the list in your mind....stop diverting from the question.

[Barcham]

Boxing is based on opinions. You can use whatever ****ing criteria you want. It's fictional.

REALLY??? Care to tell me the last time an opinion won a fight in the ring? I guess Chavez Jr. really did win against Fonfara then, because that was his opinion as he staggered away from the ring babbling close to incoherently. That also means Manny beat Floyd and there are probably a ton of other fights who's result needs to be changed because of OPINIONS.

I learn something new every day around here!

[-PBP-]

REALLY??? Care to tell me the last time an opinion won a fight in the ring? I guess Chavez Jr. really did win against Fonfara then, because that was his opinion as he staggered away from the ring babbling close to incoherently. That also means Manny beat Floyd and there are probably a ton of other fights who's result needs to be changed because of OPINIONS.

I learn something new every day around here!

Stop playing ******. The pound for pound list is fictional and based on opinions.

In fact, I will rank Paulie Malignaggi #1 right now because I ****ing can. See how that works?