Comments Thread For: Loeffler: Fans Should Criticize Fighters Ducking Golovkin

[kafkod]

Boy do I dislike the bloggers that resort to the "credible info sources" excuse when their backs are against the wall defending their favorite fighters . The sources are never a problem until they speak in opposition against their favorite fighters , then all of a sudden the info source isn't necessarily credible . But I shouldn't be surprised coming from the same guy who hops on every Ward/Kov post and reminds people that Ward may be a bit chinny due to his knock down vs Boone , but when I remind u that Kov has been either KOed or at least knocked down with head gear on , and provide the footage , the first thing u say is that the video isn't necessarily showing that its Kovalev . Shady footage !!! Lmao

Lol. My back is not against the wall defending GGG, because there is nothing to defend him against. That was the whole point of my comment.

No fighter needs defending for taking a unification fight in his own division instead of immediately moving up because some anonymous source tells Dan Raphael, "Ward wants you NOW"

I've never said that Ward is chinny. Not once.

I think the only time I've ever mentioned Darnell Boone was to correct someone - I believe it was you - who mistakenly said that Boone had a draw with Kovalev.

It's interesting that you don't seem able to discuss GGG without bringing Kovalev into it. Makes me more than a little su****ious of some hidden agenda behind your posts.

[aboutfkntime]

last time i checked. cotto nor alvared are middleweights. GGG is a coward simple and plain. he'll fight chavez jr and froch at 168 butWard at 164. thats a duck

That is a duck, no matter how you spin it.

Its a duck because they know Ward cant make 164.

And if Golovkin refuses to accept a reasonable catchweight, he will have ducked Cotto as well...... assuming that Cotto beats the red kid of course.

I think they will refuse to consider a catchweight, thereby ducking Cotto.

[aboutfkntime]

Yes, fans should. It drives me crazy how people criticize Golovkin's competition out one side of their mouth yet make a hundred excuses why no one should fight him out the other. The same people who criticize everyone under the sun for not fighting Rigondeaux. Of course, many Golovkin defenders criticize Rigondeaux so it goes both way.

Long story short, boxing fans are idiots and hypocrites who need to get their heads out of their asses and use the same standards for everyone. Yes, Golovkin could move up and fight Ward. That's one fight, though. He's tried to get a lot of good fights and those potential opponents are the ones who don't want it. They are the ones to blame for Golovkin's competition, not Golovkin.

I dont think I've ever seen that happen ?

Every top middleweight should obviously fight Golovkin.

And so should Cotto if he wants to keep his ***ellery.

The thing is, boxing fans today seem to overwhelmingly support catchweights, and Cotto is obviously not a middleweight..... so if ever a catchweight is warranted then this is a perfect situation.

Also, Golovkin demanded a catchweight from Ward.

[aboutfkntime]

It makes zero sense.

"Golovkin is overrated because he hasn't fought Quillin or Jacobs and he hasn't won a belt from a champion! Why should they fight him when he hasn't fought anyone?"

How can anyone type that and not realize how ****** it is?

Nah, GGG is overrated because of the unwarranted hype.

[SugarRaRobinson]

Lol. My back is not against the wall defending GGG, because there is nothing to defend him against. That was the whole point of my comment.

No fighter needs defending for taking a unification fight in his own division instead of immediately moving up because some anonymous source tells Dan Raphael, "Ward wants you NOW"

I've never said that Ward is chinny. Not once.

I think the only time I've ever mentioned Darnell Boone was to correct someone - I believe it was you - who mistakenly said that Boone had a draw with Kovalev.

It's interesting that you don't seem able to discuss GGG without bringing Kovalev into it. Makes me more than a little su****ious of some hidden agenda behind your posts.

That was me of whom u corrected with the Boone draw statement . If that wasn't u who likes to call Ward chinny then as a man I apologize as I thought it was . As far as Ward never offering GGG an actual contract , try not to make it seem so tenuous as u do know ( like the rest of us) that Ward said himself he was attempting to get GGG's people to sit down with his people and the HBO people to make the fight happen but GGG/camp refused . He also stated that that's how real contracts r made , not through the media , fax or email . So u going around (like u did on page 4) saying that GGG never received an offer to fight Ward is VERY misleading when he can't technically receive an offer if u refuse to sit with the ones trying to give u one . But I think u know this already .

[brettWall]

Don't know who the bigger coward is. Ward can make 160 for Floyd, but can't make 164 and meet half way for GGG.

[aboutfkntime]

johnson and heiland are no better than monroe jr and golovkin was slayed for taking that fight. according to lara there were talks between his team and golovkin's, but evidently k2 opted for the lemieux fight instead. when golovkin couldn't get a fight at middleweight, he agreed to fight ward. now that he can get the big middeweight fights, he doesn't need to move up any more. and none of this changes the fact that he was ducked repeatedly for years. duckers like sturm and martinez basically cost golovkin five or so years of his prime. he could have been in the position he's in now back in 2010 or 2011, when he was still in his 20s, if only he was given his rightful dues. as a boxing fan, you should view it as a tragedy that a fighter as good as golovkin was deprived of the right to showcase his talents on the world stage for so long

No, they opted for the Monroe fight, and stated that Monroe paid more

[aboutfkntime]

That was me of whom u corrected with the Boone draw statement . If that wasn't u who likes to call Ward chinny then as a man I apologize as I thought it was . As far as Ward never offering GGG an actual contract , try not to make it seem so tenuous as u do know ( like the rest of us) that Ward said himself he was attempting to get GGG's people to sit down with his people and the HBO people to make the fight happen but GGG/camp refused . He also stated that that's how real contracts r made , not through the media , fax or email . So u going around (like u did on page 4) saying that GGG never received an offer to fight Ward is VERY misleading when he can't technically receive an offer if u refuse to sit with the ones trying to give u one . But I think u know this already .

Not only that, Team Golovkin refused to negotiate on the weight.

They know Ward cant make 164.

They put up a roadblock.

[i'm a fun haver]

people actually want to see lee vs ggg?

Andre Ward's first fight in 2016 will be a tune up(probably at a catchweight).

[SugarRaRobinson]

Not only that, Team Golovkin refused to negotiate on the weight.

They know Ward cant make 164.

They put up a roadblock.

Yes that too . That was the smoking gun , but since he's always saying that their was never any real contract , I decided to address and stay germane to his talking points .