Comments Thread For: Hagler: Marciano's 49-0 is Better Than Mayweather's 50-0

[IronDanHamza]

It's because it doesn't fit your line of thinking. you can't be considered the greatest if you're winning in divisions with limitations. You can't be considered the best in a sport if you can't compete with, never mind beat, others who participate in it as well. How is that a hard concept to understand? It's hard to understand for you and the usual suspects in here because you worship Floyd.

Ok. Are you new to this sport? That is a genuine question. Not trying to come off patronising but I genuinely can't tell.

You do understand that Sugar Ray Robinson is considered by the vast majority of historians as the greatest fighter ever? Who I'm assuming you know isn't a Heavyweight.

You do also understand that the only two heavyweights that are ever considered to be amongst the Top 10 fighters ever are Ali and Louis? (Joe Louis rarely ever)

Moore and Charles often are but that is for their work at Light Heavyweight as opposed to Heavyweight.

If you look at any historians or just any credible person in general's Top 10 list you will notice that the vast majority of the list aren't Heavyweights.

Do you understand what the concept of the term "Pound for Pound" is?

[Nay_Sayer]

Don't be surprised if Floyd get KTFO early. Berto is a man in his prime. You can't beat a man in his prime.

Are you betting money on the Mayweather Berto fight?

[Nay_Sayer]

It's because it doesn't fit your line of thinking. you can't be considered the greatest if you're winning in divisions with limitations. You can't be considered the best in a sport if you can't compete with, never mind beat, others who participate in it as well. How is that a hard concept to understand? It's hard to understand for you and the usual suspects in here because you worship Floyd.

I guess then you've never heard of Sugar Ray Robinson...

[Nay_Sayer]

ugh....what about floyd vs castillo 1?

What does Mayweather Castillo I have to do with Marciano's record?

[El-blanco]

Ok. Are you new to this sport? That is a genuine question. Not trying to come off patronising but I genuinely can't tell.

You do understand that Sugar Ray Robinson is considered by the vast majority of historians as the greatest fighter ever? Who I'm assuming you know isn't a Heavyweight.

You do also understand that the only two heavyweights that are ever considered to be amongst the Top 10 fighters ever are Ali and Louis? (Joe Louis rarely ever)

Moore and Charles often are but that is for their work at Light Heavyweight as opposed to Heavyweight.

If you look at any historians or just any credible person in general's Top 10 list you will notice that the vast majority of the list aren't Heavyweights.

Do you understand what the concept of the term "Pound for Pound" is?

Do you understand the term pound for pound was created to rank everyone else aside from heavyweights? Why is that? FOH you wannabe intellectual phaggot.

[aboutfkntime]

Hagler is undefeated. Monroe,Vito, and Sugar Gay all lost to Marvin.

Ray cherry picked Marvin using his age and ring size against him and he still lost. Ray lost every big fight he was in.

Duran beat him 2x. New Orleans doesn't count Because Ray ran all night and Roberto came to ****.

Hearns beat his ass

They robbed Hagler

Ray is not even near Floyd's level.

[aboutfkntime]

Exactly. And this doesn't get mentioned often enough. Mayweather competes in the kiddie division, as do all non-heavyweights. They can be good for what they are. But they can never be the best of all, unless they are capable of beating everyone in an open competition not segregated by size/gender/age or any other handicapping system.

As for Serena, I don't know what discussions are ongoing. But I do know she has a lot of class and has not hesitated to admit that she would not fare well if she was required to compete against men.

Skewed logic !

Its all relevant.

[tangalog2200]

Which is the more talent rich, competitive division (in any era); WW or HW?

this up here is a non-issue...

you can have 1,000 famous, brilliant well hyped chess players competing at international masters level...but this means nothing to 10 great chess super grandmasters fighting at world championship level....

[aboutfkntime]

Do you understand the term pound for pound was created to rank everyone else aside from heavyweights? Why is that? FOH you wannabe intellectual phaggot.

ahahah

[aboutfkntime]

ahahah