Comments Thread For: Hagler: Marciano's 49-0 is Better Than Mayweather's 50-0

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  • twosweethooks
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    #191
    To even consider may jr as better than the Rock is Laughable!!

    Jr couldn't carry the Rocks Jock strap!

    Rock fought all comers won 49 lost none KO'd ****43****!!!!

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    • Nay_Sayer
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      #192
      Originally posted by El-blanco
      Lol no he wasn't. P4p was created by journalists to distinguish sugar ray from joe Louis who was the king. Sure the smaller guys have more skill but to be the best shouldn't you be able to beat the other guy? .
      Who do you think wins a fight between Sugar Ray Robinson and Joe Louis @ 160lbs?

      Think about that...

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      • Nay_Sayer
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        #193
        Originally posted by SouthPawHitman
        The unbeaten GOAT list is

        1-Calzaghe
        2-Rocky/Floyd-Floyd's career isn't over
        3-Ricardo Lopez
        Are you brain dead? No way in hell is Calzaghe ahead of Mayweather.

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        • El-blanco
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          #194
          Originally posted by Nay_Sayer
          Who do you think wins a fight between Sugar Ray Robinson and Joe Louis @ 160lbs?

          Think about that...
          You guys keep talking in the theoretical world. Who would win if they actually fought? How is a discussion about who is better in abstract terms a better indicator than an actual fight against him or his contemporaries? It's cool to talk theoretically about stuff but applied in reality it's ridiculous.
          Last edited by El-blanco; 08-10-2015, 05:18 PM.

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          • IronDanHamza
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            #195
            Originally posted by El-blanco
            You guys keep talking in the theoretical world. Who would win if they actually fought? How is a discussion about who is better in abstract terms a better indicator of who's better as opposed to an actual fight against him or his contemporaries? It's cool to talk theoretically about stuff but applied in reality it's ridiculous.
            Ok so your entire ATG list is Heavyweights then?

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            • The Gambler1981
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              #196
              Originally posted by El-blanco
              You guys keep talking in the theoretical world. Who would win if they actually fought? How is a discussion about who is better in abstract terms a better indicator of who's better, as opposed to an actual fight against him or his contemporaries? It's cool to talk theoretically about stuff but applied in reality it's ridiculous.
              Well if they fought Floyd would win, unless you can resurrect the dead~

              So isn't your stance theoretical?

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              • twosweethooks
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                #197
                Originally posted by Reloaded
                Hagler is jealous of Floyds money earning and always was , Marcianos 49 wins were mostly rubbish he never fought a prime HOF fighter , his resume is mediocre with only a few very old shop worn HOF guys on their way out at the end of their long testing careers and clearly shot .

                When you analyze Floyds resume and be realistic about his domination across 5 divisions for 18 yrs , his accomplishments will probably never be equaled , lots of haters and jealous people in this world , poor or rich nobody or somebody , they all reflect there own form off sour g****s .
                What a load of BS!

                You hide behind the spurious **** you spue like a chicken taking a dump!

                Jr has not fought a legit prime WW in the past ten or 12 years but for one armed Pacman and he lost that fight 7 to 5

                Jr couldn't carry the Rocks jock strap!
                Jr's punches are like peanut butter, gooey with no pop

                The Rock weighed 180-185 and slaughterd everyone, including JOE LOUIS

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                  #198
                  Originally posted by IronDanHamza
                  Arguably. And he's the only HW you could argue.

                  What's your point I seem to have missed it.
                  not only hw fighters like ali could be great...fighters at lower levels could be great as well..

                  and mind you, this is not all about just resume of fighters; undefeated? number of titles?, level of opposition?, whatever...

                  in fact, others may not agree on ali being the goat...

                  but hw is on top of the pyramid...the freight train if i may say so...fancy and expensive cars are more popular, the apple of one's eye...

                  on a head on collision, where would you rather be? now, don't get this wrong...it is not about just the size difference....

                  two freight trains colliding is much much more different than two fancy cars colliding..there, no more size difference on the colliding bodies..hope you get what this implies..

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                  • wlliam
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                    #199
                    Just not too long ago the popular opinion on Marcianos record was that his era was weak...now that Floyd closed in on that 49-, Marciano has been getn very popular these days

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                    • El-blanco
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                      #200
                      Originally posted by IronDanHamza
                      Ok so your entire ATG list is Heavyweights then?
                      ATG lists are all theoretical and can't be proven, so I don't even have one. Different eras, different weight classes, nobody can put together a real list that can be taken seriously considering all the factors.

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