Comments Thread For: Golovkin's Coach Would Fight Cotto Catch-Weight Stance

[hitking]

Isn't that the same with Ward begging for Chavez Jr and Carl Froch to come over to his own turf to fight him for a pay-day?

GGG travels, all of his fights are away from home he doesn't situate himself in the one place that's the huge difference in all of this!
There certainly is an A-side to GGG and Ward, you know the sad bit is that even after beating many good fighters that Ward has beat like Froch we still can't consider Ward as a fighter that attracts the public, Froch is still the bigger star and here we have Ward begging a guy to fight in a division he hasn't fought in professionally yet, doesn't that say it all (desperation).

What all GGG fans seem to have lost sight of is that a resume has to be established before becoming a star. Floyd and Manny paid there dues and had elite resumes before become stars. DLH kinda came in with a silver spoon. But he established an elite resume, even with the silver spoon. GGG is leaning towards the Broner route. Claiming to be a star without the elite resume. Its embarrassing that a guy is trying to play the A-side/B-side game with Daniel Geale as a signature win. Spin however you like.

[bigjavi973]

Please, remind me which weight class did Ward compete in the same Olympics...

ligh heavy...

now please remind me why he fought in a weight class above him (which he won gold btw)

[bigjavi973]

And still get wrecked in the ring.

How would you know?

When has GGG's chin been tested?

[bigjavi973]

I don't give a damn about the ABC groups because they corrupt and irrelevant. I also don't give a damn about them because I'm knowledgeable enough as a fan to know who's real, and who's not.

And your entire obscure country/needs belts argument goes to **** in two simple words, Manny Pacquiao. He's from an obscure country. His breakthrough into elite status, the first Barrera fight. No ABC belt on the line. The entire Morales trilogy, no ABC belt was on the line in any of those fights. His breakthrough into becoming a crossover star, against DLH. Again, no ABC belt was on the line. His signature KO against Hatton, no ABC belt was on the line.

So explain to me again why GGG needs to chase belts against ****ty fighters again. Cause I've got more. Floyd Mayweather, highest earning fighter in boxing history, never unified all the ABC belts in any of the five divisions he won belts in. Manny Pacquiao, never unified all the ABC belts in any of the eight divisions he won belts in. Oscar de la Hoya, mega crossover star. Never unified all the ABC belts in any of the six divisions he won belts in. Notice a theme? Cause from where I'm sitting, it seems like a willingness to move up chase bigger names and the best fighters is the way to crossover stardom than sitting around fighting for meaningless trimkets against paper titlist.

You're turn.

Ouch!!!
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[SunSpace]

Cotto will continue to be the lineal middleweight champion, even if he vacates the belt. GGG has no choice but to accept Cotto's requests. Otherwise, GGG can continue to waste his career away fighting mediocre opposition.

[SteveM]

Gabriel Rosado didn't test the waters at 160 before his GGG fight. In fact, his last fight right before GGG he came in around 150 lbs.

That was a while ago doe. GGG was as big as he is now doe.

Excuses.

style

You conveniently didn't address my first paragraph - I do try (most of the time unless I'm countering trolls) to take a balanced view so I did say that I don't agree with Sanchez' reasoning and I also say that I do want to see a Lara fight. You make a good point about Rosado.
It has now become apparent that team GGG are paying much attention to the R:R scenario. I can understand why they would fight Rosario over Lara, Lara brings absolutely no reward and on a risk scale of 1-10 I'd put him at 6. Ward is at 10. Cotto is at 5. Canelo is a 7. That's why Sanchez and Loeffler would much rather wait out a Canelo fight as the reward is about 20 times what comes with a Lara fight.

[M Bison]

What all GGG fans seem to have lost sight of is that a resume has to be established before becoming a star. Floyd and Manny paid there dues and had elite resumes before become stars. DLH kinda came in with a silver spoon. But he established an elite resume, even with the silver spoon. GGG is leaning towards the Broner route. Claiming to be a star without the elite resume. Its embarrassing that a guy is trying to play the A-side/B-side game with Daniel Geale as a signature win. Spin however you like.

The fans decide, you either have the backing of the public or you don't there really isn't much to it other than that why do you think so many people want to fight JCC Jr.

[Bigg Rigg]

Nope! You would go to 168 for Jr and Froch but say 164 for Ward??? Ok cool, when Cotto hit yall with the 156 pound catch weight, ya ninjas better not cry!!

[hitking]

The fans decide, you either have the backing of the public or you don't there really isn't much to it other than that why do you think so many people want to fight JCC Jr.

Yeah, and Chavez Jr has fizzled out. Broner has fizzled out. And there's a long ass list of flash-n-the-pan mofos that have fizzled out. At some point, the public is gonna demand some merit behind the hype. And GGG's day is gonna come too. For me and many others, its time for him to **** or get off the pot. He has a little rope because he's built up a nice lil core base. But that core base isn't gonna support the kinda paydays he wants. Especially fighting the Lemieuxs and Andy Lees of the world.

[b00g13man]

Calling GGG a bum is the height of absurdity for any rational thinking person - racism makes people say irrational things. Justify how he is a bum - you can't! Actually, yes please do, I need a good laugh this afternoon.
I wouldn't even call Salko a bum, I'd bet heavily that he'd put 99.99 % of posters in here on the canvas.
So calling an elite fighter like GGG a bum is willful trolling at best or motivated by hatred at worst. Having read Elishua's posts over the last year I think it's a bit of both.

This has got to be one of the dumbest leaps of logic I've ever seen. You ever heard of hyperbole? It's usually used to get a point across. Jeez!!!!

Also, lol @ GGG being "elite". I wouldn't label him as such until he actually beats someone worthwhile.