Comments Thread For: Golovkin's Coach Would Fight Cotto Catch-Weight Stance

[bigjavi973]

still pretending that sergio wasn't a cripple that cotto beat at a catchweight?

What's even more funnier???

The same Martin Murray ya was hyping up, "oh he got robbed doe", couldn't put away an obvious, injured martinez, who injured himself, in two different locations, two weeks before their fight.

[bigjavi973]

Once GGG collects IBF belt from Lemeiux, the pressure to face him will be even more. Cotto maybe does not care about the belt, but GGG cares very much. If he grabs WBC (from Cotto or not), he will be pretty much undisputed champ. WBO is somewhat a junior belt. There will be no way around GGG for Canelo then. And no ****** catchweights will be allowed. This "bending over" exists only in your imagination. I wonder, why...

[kafkod]

I don't give a damn about the ABC groups because they corrupt and irrelevant. I also don't give a damn about them because I'm knowledgeable enough as a fan to know who's real, and who's not.

And your entire obscure country/needs belts argument goes to **** in two simple words, Manny Pacquiao. He's from an obscure country. His breakthrough into elite status, the first Barrera fight. No ABC belt on the line. The entire Morales trilogy, no ABC belt was on the line in any of those fights. His breakthrough into becoming a crossover star, against DLH. Again, no ABC belt was on the line. His signature KO against Hatton, no ABC belt was on the line.

So explain to me again why GGG needs to chase belts against ****ty fighters again. Cause I've got more. Floyd Mayweather, highest earning fighter in boxing history, never unified all the ABC belts in any of the five divisions he won belts in. Manny Pacquiao, never unified all the ABC belts in any of the eight divisions he won belts in. Oscar de la Hoya, mega crossover star. Never unified all the ABC belts in any of the six divisions he won belts in. Notice a theme? Cause from where I'm sitting, it seems like a willingness to move up chase bigger names and the best fighters is the way to crossover stardom than sitting around fighting for meaningless trimkets against paper titlist.

You're turn.

Floyd, Manny and Oscar all turned pro at a much younger age than GGG. They moved up and up because they outgrew the divisions they were fighting in as youngsters.

GGG was outgrowing divisions as an amateur and already a mature man when he turned pro.

BHop won his first title at MW when he was around the same age as GGG. He stayed at MW for 6 years and didn't move to 168 till he had unified at 160.

[M Bison]

Or the guy who realizes that GGG cares more about the payday against the Cotto-Canelo winner moreso than the belt.

Isn't that the same with Ward begging for Chavez Jr and Carl Froch to come over to his own turf to fight him for a pay-day?

GGG travels, all of his fights are away from home he doesn't situate himself in the one place that's the huge difference in all of this!
There certainly is an A-side to GGG and Ward, you know the sad bit is that even after beating many good fighters that Ward has beat like Froch we still can't consider Ward as a fighter that attracts the public, Froch is still the bigger star and here we have Ward begging a guy to fight in a division he hasn't fought in professionally yet, doesn't that say it all (desperation).

[bigjavi973]

ward is not unified champ. he has one of the four belts. ward has beaten one guy in the top 10. that's kicking all their asses? stop living in the past. ward hasn't done anything in 4 years. things change. degale(another champ) just called him out and ward ignored him so please follow boxing.

if ggg was lineal champ at 168 and was trying to fight ward at a catchweight that would be the equivalent of what cotto is doing. since ggg fights at 160 it's not the same now is it? yet you are pretending it's the same thing.

but.... chavez jr & froch at 168 but not ward???

i dont get how you can defend that honestly.

[bigjavi973]

Maybe you're just trolling,or maybe you really just don't understand the the difference. GGG fights at 160,ward at 168. The fight would be at 164 with no titles on the line. On the other hand,cotto or canelo would be the wbc middleweight champion,and GGG is their mandatory. If either of them tries to impose their catchweight on their MANDATORY,and the negotiations fall apart,they get stripped and golovkin automatically becomes the full champion,without having to fight any bum for the title. Either way,ggg becomes champion, and cotto or canelo are know as the guys who would rather drop their title,rather than face their mandatory opponent.

How can you defend the Ward 164 cw when he'll fight Froch & Chavez Jr at 168?

[AP♠]

GGG fans desperatly drowning to save face on the catch weight glam time to feel the flock everyone's fighter has felt dealing with a CW stipulation yall retarted m****ers are no different.

[SteveM]

I'm as confused as you are. Bum? Racist? How?

Calling GGG a bum is the height of absurdity for any rational thinking person - racism makes people say irrational things. Justify how he is a bum - you can't! Actually, yes please do, I need a good laugh this afternoon.
I wouldn't even call Salko a bum, I'd bet heavily that he'd put 99.99 % of posters in here on the canvas.
So calling an elite fighter like GGG a bum is willful trolling at best or motivated by hatred at worst. Having read Elishua's posts over the last year I think it's a bit of both.

[hitking]

Floyd, Manny and Oscar all turned pro at a much younger age than GGG. They moved up and up because they outgrew the divisions they were fighting in as youngsters.

GGG was outgrowing divisions as an amateur and already a mature man when he turned pro.

BHop won his first title at MW when he was similar age to GGG. He stayed at MW for 6 years and didn't move to 168 till he had unified at 160.

Bull****. Floyd only had a couple fights at lightweight, then jumped to 140 to chase a PPV fight with Gatti. Then after a short stay there, jumped to chase a PPV fight with then welterweight champ Judah. Then after the three fights with Mitchell, Judah, and Baldomir, got the fight at 54 against DLH. Floyd didn't outgrow anything, he moved up chasing bigger names.

After the JMM rematch at 130, Manny was one-n-done at 35 grabbing a paper trinket against David Diaz. Then immediately jumped to 47 to fight DLH. Then jumped down to 140, only weighing in at like 137/138 or so for Hatton. He didn't outgrow anything.

Hopkins did what GGG is trying to do. That's sit around and wait on smaller fighters to come to him. Hopkins got lucky because Don King's middleweight tourney allowed him to get Tito. Then DLH eventually tried his luck. But he never became a crossover star. And its likely neither will GGG. Because Hopkins was seen even then as an old guy, so younger guys like Tito and DLH were hoping he was past it. The difference is, GGG is seen as the young, fresh guy, despite his age. And he's trying to lure up smaller fighters that are past it, on the way out. Plus, Hopkins never came close to becoming a crossover star. So that's not exactly a blueprint GGG needs to follow.

[bigjavi973]

I'd like to see that as well. I'd prefer it to Monroe Jr. Sanchez asking "what has Lara done" and justifying fighting the winner of the Boxcino doesn't make any sense. That said, Lara is so inactive and he could be testing out 160 waters fighting a lesser MW. But he won't do that - he wants a (relatively) big money fight with GGG.

Gabriel Rosado didn't test the waters at 160 before his GGG fight. In fact, his last fight right before GGG he came in around 150 lbs.

That was a while ago doe. GGG was as big as he is now doe.

Excuses.

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