What division would Andre Ward have fought in when 168 didn't exist?

[The Hammer]

excellent point. Also, dishwashers and cab drivers could earn enough to make a living and not have to fight. So the better question is:

From the 19th century to the 1980s, who would GGG fight?

All the best.

And unlike Andre Ward, he wouldn't need home advantage or dirty tactics!!!

[The Hammer]

No, that would be the equivalent of moving up and beating Adonis Stevenson, who is the lineal champ, not Kovalev.

Most people agree the real 175 champ is Sergey Kovalev.

[Build That Wall]

No, if he fights them without a home ref and illegal tactics, and agrees to PED testing (which he's refused in the past) and fights GGG at 160 or Kovalev at 175, I'll give him credit.

He demanded home advantage for all his super six fights, that wasn't fair to the others.

Ward has been a very privileged boxer.

He didn't fight in Oakland for all the super 6 fights. Apparently Smoger is not a California ref, apparently he is a Ny or NJ, not sure, but that is what I heard.

Home should count as California ref, not US Ref. Eventually, GGG will go up to 168, he just wants to beat the big names at 160 first to make his own name as big as it can be. Ward can't come down to160. Losing weight is unbelievable ly hard. But gaining weight isn't. I see Ward vs GGG happening at 168 and the kovalev fight at 175. You are very picky when it comes to illegal tactics. Klitschko has used many dirty tactics throughout his career.

[The Big Dunn]

Wards last fight night weight available was against Dawson and he was 176, Golovkin has weighed in at 173 before. The size difference isn't big.

Yeah, right. Well you are right, he wouldn't be fighting cab drivers in an era with no cabs.

[The Hammer]

Wards last fight night weight available was against Dawson and he was 176, Golovkin has weighed in at 173 before. The size difference isn't big.

So why did he refuse to give his fight night weight for Smith?

Likely it was because he was 190 or so, and wanted to conceal it from the public, like a diva.

Ward is now several years older and he's getting thicker, that's why he demanded the catch weight against Smith.

[Sweet Pea 50]

No conspiracy.

It's primarily a division for boxers like Sven Ottke and Andre Ward to hide in.

How about Cruiserweights?

What's their excuse?

[The Big Dunn]

Most people agree the real 175 champ is Sergey Kovalev.

No they do not. A few posters on NSB pretend Kov is the lineal champ the same way they do Loma and GGG are. Why you guys do this, only you know.

[IronDanHamza]

****** question because the 168 divison does exist.

[Ray Ray]

Yes he is much smaller, and that's why Ward is interested in fighting him at 168.

But financially, it would be a ****** move for GGG to fight Ward at 168 because:

1) Ward can't draw flies, no reward

2) high risk, because Ward would use dirty tactics, cut GGG over the eyes with deliberate head butts, which a shady ref would permit.

Kovalev learned from his fight with Agnew and now can avoid head butts, as we saw in his fights with Pascal and Hopkins. GGG is too short to prevent the Son of Goat from delivering a nasty butt and a severe, blinding cut over the eye.

So if Cotto, Canelo isn't going to fight then what else is he gonna do??? sit around at 160 and fight sub par comp.??? You're really not making anysense with this drivel...If he wants to cement his legacy, he's gonna have to move up whether you like it or not..Thats just the harsh reality of it.

Also, its comical listening to you dudes moan about how Ward isn't a draw ect, ect. ect....but you dudes never give a break down on how GGG is going to beat Ward...I dare you to even try to give a break down...I can assure it gets destroyed.

[IronDanHamza]

Which is a small middleweight.

Golovkin weighed 165 lbs at the 30 day weigh in for Rubio

http://www.thesweetscience.com/news/...0-day-weigh-in

That's a whopping 5 lbs to cut in a month.... Pretty sure he could fight at a true 160 if he needed to

for reference Canelo weighs around 174 on fight night

http://www.************.com/2014/03/...ht-last-night/

never know if my links show up because of boxingscenes dumb censorship...

How can he be small for the weight when he has weighed 10+ lbs North multiple times?