What division would Andre Ward have fought in when 168 didn't exist?

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  • The Big Dunn
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    #21
    This thread being made shows the biggest GGG fans know Ward would beat him.

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    • The Hammer
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      #22
      Originally posted by Ray Ray
      It's a two way streak Tunney....that means Joe calzaghe will not be an Atg supermiddle wieght now will he? You can't just sit here and make sh$t up to suit your bias. You're a terrible bias human being.
      Calzaghe moved up to 175, and won the linear title fighting in a foriegn country.

      That's the equivalent of Andre Ward moving up to 175 and fighting Sergey Kovalev in Russia, something he's NEVER do.

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        #23
        He weighs 170 fight night.
        Which is a small middleweight.

        Golovkin weighed 165 lbs at the 30 day weigh in for Rubio

        http://www.thesweetscience.com/news/...0-day-weigh-in

        That's a whopping 5 lbs to cut in a month.... Pretty sure he could fight at a true 160 if he needed to

        for reference Canelo weighs around 174 on fight night

        http://www.************.com/2014/03/...ht-last-night/

        never know if my links show up because of boxingscenes dumb censorship...

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          #24
          Originally posted by Isaac Clarke
          Back then they had same day weigh-ins, Golovkin and Ward would be both at 175.
          excellent point. Also, dishwashers and cab drivers could earn enough to make a living and not have to fight. So the better question is:

          From the 19th century to the 1980s, who would GGG fight?

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            #25
            Originally posted by Freedom.
            Calzaghe moved up to 175, and won the linear title fighting in a foriegn country.

            That's the equivalent of Andre Ward moving up to 175 and fighting Sergey Kovalev in Russia, something he's NEVER do.
            No, that would be the equivalent of moving up and beating Adonis Stevenson, who is the lineal champ, not Kovalev.

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              #26
              Originally posted by Ellerbe Exposed
              Which is a small middleweight.

              Golovkin weighed 165 lbs at the 30 day weigh in for Rubio

              http://www.thesweetscience.com/news/...0-day-weigh-in

              That's a whopping 5 lbs to cut in a month.... Pretty sure he could fight at a true 160

              for reference Canelo weights around 175 on fight night

              http://www.************.com/2014/03/...ht-last-night/

              never know if my links show up because of boxingscenes dumb censorship...
              Golovkin weighed 173 on fight night for Rubio.


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                #27
                Originally posted by Freedom.
                Calzaghe moved up to 175, and won the linear title fighting in a foriegn country.

                That's the equivalent of Andre Ward moving up to 175 and fighting Sergey Kovalev in Russia, something he's NEVER do.
                And his career is not over yet so you don't what he's going to do.

                You make the most outlandish claims. You've salty every since ward schooled the European fighters in the super 6. I know you,you're not fooling anybody.

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                  #28
                  Guess I'm not sure what your point is

                  You really don't think he could make a 160 lb same day weigh in when he cuts from 165 and fights at 170? Those are very mild numbers. He's smaller than Canelo.

                  Ward is barely able to make 168 and just fought at 172. The size gap is large.
                  Last edited by ////; 07-13-2015, 09:49 AM.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Ellerbe Exposed
                    Not true. Golovkin could make 160 same day. He only drops a few pounds to make mw. Check his 30 day, 1 week etc weights. He's a small dude.
                    Yes he is much smaller, and that's why Ward is interested in fighting him at 168.

                    But financially, it would be a ****** move for GGG to fight Ward at 168 because:

                    1) Ward can't draw flies, no reward

                    2) high risk, because Ward would use dirty tactics, cut GGG over the eyes with deliberate head butts, which a shady ref would permit.

                    Kovalev learned from his fight with Agnew and now can avoid head butts, as we saw in his fights with Pascal and Hopkins. GGG is too short to prevent the Son of Goat from delivering a nasty butt and a severe, blinding cut over the eye.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Ellerbe Exposed
                      Guess I'm not sure what your point is

                      You really don't think he could make a 160 lb same day weigh in when he cuts from 165 and fights at 170? Those are very modest numbers. He's smaller than Canelo.

                      Ward is barely able to make 168. The size gap is large.
                      Wards last fight night weight available was against Dawson and he was 176, Golovkin has weighed in at 173 before. The size difference isn't big.

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