What division would Andre Ward have fought in when 168 didn't exist?

[Build That Wall]

If Ward fights GGG OR KOVALEV outside of Oakland, beats them with ease, you still probably wouldn't give ward his due credit.

[Sweet Pea 50]

Boxing created a division the same year Ward was born as a conspiracy.

[Robbie Barrett]

No, Ward refuses to fight at 160.

Right now, he's actually avoiding GGG at middleweight and Kovalev at 175.

The craven Son of Goat hides in a division that never used to exist.

Back then they had same day weigh-ins, Golovkin and Ward would be both at 175.

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Back then they had same day weigh-ins, Golovkin and Ward would be both at 175.

Not true. Golovkin could make 160 same day. He only drops a few pounds to make mw. Check his 30 day, 1 week etc weights. He's a small dude.

[The Hammer]

If Ward fights GGG OR KOVALEV outside of Oakland, beats them with ease, you still probably wouldn't give ward his due credit.

No, if he fights them without a home ref and illegal tactics, and agrees to PED testing (which he's refused in the past) and fights GGG at 160 or Kovalev at 175, I'll give him credit.

He demanded home advantage for all his super six fights, that wasn't fair to the others.

Ward has been a very privileged boxer.

[Szef]

I'm just quoting Bernard Hopkins.

Are you accusing B-Hop of being paranoid?

No, you're not. Jesus Christ man, I like you but it's painfully obvious what you're trying to do here.

Andre Ward is a hypocrite, so is Gennady Golovkin. We all have to just deal with it.

[Robbie Barrett]

Not true. Golovkin could make 160 same day. He only drops a few pounds to make mw. Check his 30 day, 1 week etc weights. He's a small dude.

He weighs 170 fight night.

[Eastcoast]

Ward started his career at 160, that's where he was almost KO'd by Boone. Who knows how much longer he would've stayed at MW w/o a SMW division.

[Ray Ray]

It's a two way streak Tunney....that means Joe calzaghe will not be an Atg supermiddle wieght now will he? You can't just sit here and make sh$t up to suit your bias. You're a terrible bias human being.

[The Hammer]

Boxing created a division the same year Ward was born as a conspiracy.

No conspiracy.

It's primarily a division for boxers like Sven Ottke and Andre Ward to hide in.