But Cotto lives too far away?

[Dirk Diggler UK]

I was at that fight. And Cotto wasn't easily beaten. But he did lose to Trout. And then went on to win fights again along with another belt.

You even predicted that Martinez would T/KO Cotto. And instead, Cotto destroyed him. So yeah, I don't think you have any room to talk negatively about Cotto.

Sergio Martinez by T/KO
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I nor anyone else knew how bad Martinez's knees were until the fight. A healthy Sergio would have knocked out Cotto, I even said in my posts "if he's healthy".

He clearly wasn't but keep acting like Cotto is "re-born"

[-Kev-]

Miguel Cotto would have been a more lucrative fight than Ricky Hatton.

No it wouldn't have. $15 million guarantee + PPV from US (900k sold), and cut from UK PPV (2 million sold).

Now, 2012 Mayweather vs Cotto ended up being more lucrative than Mayweather vs Hatton 2007, and way more lucrative than Mayweather vs Cotto would have bee in 2007. On top of that, making a deal with Top Rank would have meant more splitting between two big promotional companies.

So no, Mayweather vs Cotto would not have been more lucrative than Mayweather vs Hatton was.

[radioraheem]

sure maybe at 130 but the 2007 version was more aggressive? he fought off the back foot the entire fight against hatton, hoya, and baldomir. the more aggressive version of floyd that would have destroyed cotto in 2007 doesn't exist but at least he exists in your head. that's all that matters.

cotto lost to austin trout. how do you explain that? trout's no where near as good as martinez was but we know martinez was crippled and thats why cotto has a belt and that's the only reason why.

Hatton he stopped. You can't stop a guy without being aggressive yourself. He was definitely more aggressive than he is now.

Cotto lost to Trout? Yes, because styles make fights. Not because he's 'diminished.' Also Trout at the time was not only undefeated, but champion. Oh, Martinez was cripped right? Okay.

[radioraheem]

I nor anyone else knew how bad Martinez's knees were until the fight. A healthy Sergio would have knocked out Cotto, I even said in my posts "if he's healthy".

He clearly wasn't but keep acting like Cotto is "re-born"

[daggum]

I was at that fight. And Cotto wasn't easily beaten. But he did lose to Trout. And then went on to win fights again along with another belt.

You even predicted that Martinez would T/KO Cotto. And instead, Cotto destroyed him. So yeah, I don't think you have any room to talk negatively about Cotto.

most people thought martinez would win. martinez hid a career ending injury so that he could make a big payday. you keep saying cotto won a belt while ignoring that he won it off a guy who was struggling to walk. if you are going to say cotto is better than ever you better come up with better fighters than a disabled martinez and a drained geale.

[daggum]

Hatton he stopped. You can't stop a guy without being aggressive yourself. He was definitely more aggressive than he is now.

Cotto lost to Trout? Yes, because styles make fights. Not because he's 'diminished.' Also Trout at the time was not only undefeated, but champion. Oh, Martinez was cripped right? Okay. :)

yes you can. its called counter punching them so that they run into a turnbuckle.

yes he was crippled. he admitted it himself.

[radioraheem]

most people thought martinez would win. martinez hid a career ending injury so that he could make a big payday. you keep saying cotto won a belt while ignoring that he won it off a guy who was struggling to walk. if you are going to say cotto is better than ever you better come up with better fighters than a disabled martinez and a drained geale.

Struggling to walk?

[Sweet Jones]

Like I said, its not that Cotto didn't want to pursue. Its that Floyd didn't want the fight. How can you pursue when Floyd says, "I'm not interested"



Here are multiple links:
"Floyd Mayweather is NOT interested in a fight with Cotto 2007-12-16..... Floyd gave his thought on Cotto trying to lure Floyd into a fight...... more importantly, Floyd doesn't feel the fight makes any financial sense at the moment.

http://www.boxingscene.com/mayweather-cotto-knows-he-t-beat-me--11721

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Below article shows that they were ready to pursue but Floyd's team was not interested in the Cotto fight. Check out Ellerbe's excuse.

""A lot of people will be asking, 'Who is he?' " Ellerbe said. "He's a very good fighter, a warrior, but not enough people know him." - Ellerbe

"Arum said he would most likely select a March 8 opponent for Cotto in Puerto Rico if Mayweather talks fail, which could leave Mayweather feeling restrained from success again."

http://articles.latimes.com/2007/dec/10/sports/sp-boxing10

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http://nypost.com/2008/04/10/cotto-jabs-floyd/

Im always patient in my career and in my life Cotto said at yesterdays press conference at Sofrito, a Puerto Rican restaurant on the East Side. If I have to be patient to fight the guy the press says is the best in the world, thats OK.

I cant fight a guy who doesnt want to face me, Cotto said.

Thats as close to trash talk as youll hear from businesslike Cotto, but his promoter, Bob Arum, was eager to attack Mayweather.

Floyd is a fraud Arum said. He will do everything to avoid a real fight.

Arums verbal assault may help get Mayweather into a ring with Cotto.

Arum has said that Mayweather is so afraid of losing his perfect record that he will not fight Cotto. Asked how Mayweather, whom Arum promoted from 1998-2006, would handle a defeat, Arum said, He would seriously have a breakdown.

Would Mayweather be able to come back from a loss?

No Arum said flatly.

Mayweather said recently that he will not fight Cotto until he is ready to do so. This is not the first time a top contender has been forced to wait for his title shot, and it wont be the last.

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"He has had great victories, but when you talk about Miguel Cotto and Floyd Mayweather, Floyd always comes up with excuses -- I'm not the opponent for him, I'm not ready for him," Cotto said.

http://www.mlive.com/mayweather/inde...for_floyd.html

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It's funny how all of your article proclaiming Cotto's alleged 'desire' for the fight start after Mayweather had 'retired' post Hatton.

Cotto won his major belt at 140 almost a full year (Sept '04) before Mayweather won his in the division (June '05 against Gatti). You could have had your fight when both were champions at 140 and there were no promotional issues to interfere (both under Top Rank and on HBO).

Here's Todd DuBoef post the Gatti beatdown (LINK):

Would the big fights you’ll be looking for be at 140? I ask because traditionally Floyd wins the WBC belt in a division and doesn’t unify before moving up. Would you like hime to unify?

Todd DuBoef: What you’re talking about there is a Hatton fight, a Maussa fight but I think that Maussa now has a mandatory with M’baye, and then you’re talking about Cotto. Ideally, Cotto-Mayweather in the future could be like Leonard – Duran. The same kind of ingredients, the Latin fighter, the darling kid, it really has that type of possibility. But I don’t think that fight is ready yet. I think it probably needs to create that swell of attention, probably twelve months. Two or three fights for each and it would be ready to go.

Again, Top Rank didn't want to make the fight at that time, choosing to wait. And Cotto put his faith in Top Rank to tell him 'when the time is right'. They blew it.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

No it wouldn't have. $15 million guarantee + PPV from US (900k sold), and cut from UK PPV (2 million sold).

Now, 2012 Mayweather vs Cotto ended up being more lucrative than Mayweather vs Hatton 2007, and way more lucrative than Mayweather vs Cotto would have bee in 2007. On top of that, making a deal with Top Rank would have meant more splitting between two big promotional companies.

So no, Mayweather vs Cotto would not have been more lucrative than Mayweather vs Hatton was.

2 million sold? It was 1 million but I guess you have to double figures to dress up your point and Hatton kept all of the UK PPV revenue anyway.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

I was waiting for him to bust out the gif of Martinez hobbling across the ring like a spasticated deer as "proof" that he was totally healthy for Cotto