Comments Thread For: Mayweather, Golovkin earn top billing for 2015’s first half

[The Big Dunn]

Huh?? You say GGG's fighters have "good name value" - what exactly is that?? You Big Dunn are choosing to use those words - many others would just say they are flat out a better standard of boxer compared to Parker's, Joshua's and Wilder's (pre-Stiverne) opponents. That GGG is heavily favored to beat those B level fighters is neither here nor there. We would all like to see him in with Froch, Ward, Canelo, Quillen, Jacobs but until that happens GGG has more than "passed the eye test".

Regards him fighting Monroe instead of Canelo .... other boxers don't fight 4 times a year so yeah, if you only fight once or twice a year, you will get shat on if you then fight a Salko or equivalent. Look at the crap Ward got for fighting Smith after 17 months out.

I venture that Golovkin's situation is very different to most other fighters. He is willing to fight any other in his division - how many other boxers are willing to do that? - just a handful right, and then over and above that his team (until proven otherwise) are trying to get him in with the biggest names. When they can't they get the best fighter available without a prearranged fight. Last I heard it was Monroe, Heiland or Johnson - none of them impressive names but best available.

They have a name, but not much of a chance to win.

Others have argued same. Nothing wrong with saying he passes the eye test-that is fine. I also get the activity is more than others. One could argue its easy to fight 4 times a year if you are never seriously challenged in any fight.

He did say that. Me and others are asking he prove it, something he has not done to my satisfaction.

If he proves it, there will be nothing for me to say. I just think he gets a huge pass from a lot of his fans.

Just an FYI, I appreciate the civil and adult discussion.

[SteveM]

Just an FYI, I appreciate the civil and adult discussion.

Fuck You Asshole






... sorry, couldn't resist. Me too - have a good one!

[FloydvsPac]

It's already July. No announcement on Floyd's September opponent. Seems doubtful now. SHO & his team are definitely worried about the PPV numbers. Who cares if it's low, right??? Or just let him fight Berto on regular SHO.

[hitking]

Well I still say if you only see boxers as either "bums/tomoto cans" OR "elite" then you are missing out on nuances that make boxing more interesting and entertaining. It's not impressive to see Wilder or Joshua knock out D and E level fighters. It's much more impressive to see a boxer like GGG knock out B level opponents like Geale and Murray. And if we could possibly agree that Geale and Murray are B level fighters then what does that make Golovkin - surely an A grade fighter?

You don't believe in monsters but the majority of the world's population does and likes to entertain the fact that they might exist, otherwise why would the horror genre of films be so popular? Or why did Tyson garner such a huge following?

As to Golovkin getting exposed eventually - well I happen to agree but meanwhile I want to see him fight the best that have the balls to step in the ring with him - and I feel compelled to watch to see if the monster tag is justified or whether he will be exposed.

I don't classify everyone as bums or elite. When evaluating GGG's resume. I evaluate him as an elite fighter, which he is rated as among most boxing folk. And for an elite fighter, is resume is extremely thin, and borderline pathetic.

As for monsters. I've been following boxing too long to put stock in that bull****. Everybody can be whooped. Its just a question of who and when.

[kafkod]

Take ranking out of it like you would in all other instances. wlad koing leapai, a top 10 ranked fighters, was compelling? of course not. If Stevenson just murked Oosthuezin would that be compelling? of course not.

SO can we stop saying watching an inevitable KO is compelling or exciting just because its GGG when we do not do it in other fights including top 10 opponents?

Murray and Geale were way better than Leapai.

And to repeat my question, if not Monroe, who else could GGG have fought who he wouldn't be hot favourite to beat?

GGG is "staying busy" now while he waits his mandatory shot at the WBC and lineal titles. For stay busy fights, these are very good opponents he is facing. The best opponents he can get, in fact.

Like I said, that's what makes him compelling to watch. He isn't knocking over the MW equivalents of Leapai and Oosthuezin, but the best MWs who will get in the ring with him.

Tyson was never more compelling to watch than when he was going up against the best HWs out there and the only question anyone ever asked before one of his fights was "How long is it going to take him to knock this guy TFO?"

[hitking]

Murray and Geale were way better than Leapai.

And to repeat my question, if not Monroe, who else could GGG have fought who he wouldn't be hot favourite to beat?

GGG is "staying busy" now while he waits his mandatory shot at the WBC and lineal titles. For stay busy fights, these are very good opponents he is facing. The best opponents he can get, in fact.

Like I said, that's what makes him compelling to watch. He isn't knocking over the MW equivalents of Leapai and Oosthuezin, but the best MWs who will get in the ring with him.

Tyson was never more compelling to watch than when he was going up against the best HWs out there and the only question anyone ever asked before one of his fights was "How long is it going to take him to knock this guy TFO?"

Just curious. Is there a rule that says GGG can't go up and fight Ward, while he's waiting on whatever ridiculous, pointless fight at 60? Then move back down to 60 and fight for whatever pointless belt y'all covent after Ward kicks his ass?

[The Big Dunn]

Murray and Geale were way better than Leapai.

And to repeat my question, if not Monroe, who else could GGG have fought who he wouldn't be hot favourite to beat?

GGG is "staying busy" now while he waits his mandatory shot at the WBC and lineal titles. For stay busy fights, these are very good opponents he is facing. The best opponents he can get, in fact.

Like I said, that's what makes him compelling to watch. He isn't knocking over the MW equivalents of Leapai and Oosthuezin, but the best MWs who will get in the ring with him.

Tyson was never more compelling to watch than when he was going up against the best HWs out there and the only question anyone ever asked before one of his fights was "How long is it going to take him to knock this guy TFO?"

Find someone at 168 and challenge yourself if you can't get what you want at 160.

Leapai and Ousthuezin are top 10 ranked opponents, the same thing being said about Gaele and Murray. I am just pointing out that koing atop 10 ranked fighter is not compelling in and of itself.

HWT's are different and Tyson could get fights.

It's simple-what is ok for GGG to do when he doesn't get what he wants? you say-stay busy fights are ok. I say, fuck those and make tougher fights even if it means going to 168.

[Fetta]

GGG being here shows casuals dont care about comp they care about KO's. GGG can fight cans his whole career and be a superstar, which is what he is doing so far.

[SilverMiles]

Just curious. Is there a rule that says GGG can't go up and fight Ward, while he's waiting on whatever ridiculous, pointless fight at 60? Then move back down to 60 and fight for whatever pointless belt y'all covent after Ward kicks his ass?

Is there a rule saying Ward can't go up and fight Kovalev?

Keep it real you just want too see GGG, so you pick a naturally bigger fighter to get the job done.

No one GGG size can beat him right now.

[hitking]

Is there a rule saying Ward can't go up and fight Kovalev?

Keep it real you just want too see GGG, so you pick a naturally bigger fighter to get the job done.

No one GGG size can beat him right now.

I would love to see Ward-Kovalev. I think Ward beats him. Not as easily as he would beat GGG. But, I think he wins comfortably.

As for Ward being naturally bigger. Child please. There's very little, if any size difference between the two. I find it ironic that a GGG fan would play the size card. Especially when y'all are screaming for Floyd-GGG. And the size difference between Floyd and GGG is a helluva lot more than Ward and GGG.