My P4P top 10 list

[Rokozoko]

Old man Ray Austin was giving Stiverne some work FFS. OLD MAN RAY AUSTIN!!!!!

Stiverne got his victories against Arreola, though, so he redeemed himself. Arreola killed Seth Mitchell and he beat up Adamek, what has Geale done, except getting humiliated by a small, old fighter from the lower weight classes who already lost several times down there? Geale is NOTHING compared to Stiverne and I don't care about belts, it's all about who you got the belts from.

[VG_Addict]

Stiverne got his victories against Arreola, though, so he redeemed himself. Arreola killed Seth Mitchell and he beat up Adamek, what has Geale done, except getting humiliated by a small, old fighter from the lower weight classes? Geale is NOTHING compared to Stiverne and I don't care about belts, it's all about who you got the belts from.

Arreola has lost every time he's stepped up. He lost to Vitali, Adamek, and Stiverne.

[Rokozoko]

Arreola has lost every time he's stepped up. He lost to Vitali, Adamek, and Stiverne.

1: Almost everyone loses to Vitali, Arreola was one of the few to almost go the distance.
2: Arreola humiliated Adamek, but got robbed.
3: Arreola destroyed Mitchell.
4: Arreola losing to Stiverne doesn't make Arreola bad, it makes Stiverne good.

[Rokozoko]

Before Wilder fought Stiverne, everyone was "ooh, Wilder will get KTFO!", but now, after Wilder beat Stiverne, people talk like Stiverne was nothing.

[BOMB ZQUAD]

Sergey Kovalev should be #3 or #4

Tbh, Sergey is better than Andre Ward IMO, I wanna see them go head to head

[bigjavi973]

Stiverne got his victories against Arreola, though, so he redeemed himself. Arreola killed Seth Mitchell and he beat up Adamek, what has Geale done, except getting humiliated by a small, old fighter from the lower weight classes? Geale is NOTHING compared to Stiverne and I don't care about belts, it's all about who you got the belts from.

You do know Areola got a L from the Adamek fight right?
The same Adamek that Dawson slapped around?
The same Mitchell that Banks beat up?

If you don't care about the belts & it's "who" they got it from:

Geale beat sturm in germany > Stiverne beat crapreola.

[VG_Addict]

Rigondeaux is definetely more skilled than Wilder, but Rigondeaux is small, got a glassjaw and is too old, he is on his way out of the game. There is really no point in having Rigondeaux on any P4P top 10 list, remember how he almost got KOed against a Japanese journeyman in his last fight and has done nothing since? I respect Rigo, but he started too late and is as good as finished, while Wilder has barely started.

He's small, so he's not on the list, but Wilder is? Do you even know what P4P means? It means who's the best regardless of weight class. In other words, if everyone were the same size, who would be the most skilled?

[bigjavi973]

Before Wilder fought Stiverne, everyone was "ooh, Wilder will get KTFO!", but now, after Wilder beat Stiverne, people talk like Stiverne was nothing.

bullshit! I was on Wilder's side for the fight. Never said that myself. Unless you are just "generalizing".

[Johnwoo8686]

1: Almost everyone loses to Vitali, Arreola was one of the few to almost go the distance.
2: Arreola humiliated Adamek, but got robbed.
3: Arreola destroyed Mitchell.
4: Arreola losing to Stiverne doesn't make Arreola bad, it makes Stiverne good.

Adamek beat Arreola pretty clearly in my eyes.

[deanrw]

My current top P4P list

1: Hector Camacho
2: Mike McCallum
3: Donald Curry
4: Thomas Hearns
5: Roberto Duran
6: Marvin Hagler
7: Evander Holyfield
8: Mike Tyson
9: Rocky Marciano
10: Salvador Sanchez.

I mean sure, none of them have fought for a while, and just like Ward, they have not done anything in years. Since everyone else though Wants to keep Ward at #2 just for things he did in the distant past, I will keep my guys on my list also