My P4P top 10 list
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Good post,but if you take them out then what do you have? Its non transferable.Froch would belong on my list if he wasn't as good as retired. Rigondeaux is completely shot now and his old glassjaw will crack soon, his resume just won't improve and Walters did better against Donaire. Canelo is okay but a hypejob, he lost to Mayweather, Trout and Lara. Golovkin does not have even 1 win on par with Stiverne yet and if Golovkin was black and Wilder was white, their positions would be reversed. I agree with you that Gonzalez is very underrated, though, and when thinking about it, yes, I should probably place him above Wilder as number 10 on my list, making Wilder 11 and Golovkin number 12.Comment
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Really? At least Geale was a 2x champ. Crapreola is well... crap!Who is Golovkin's best win? Does Golovkin have one win on par with Stiverne? I can't think of any. Any list with Golovkin above Wilder got a tad of racism to it and I don't think race should play a role on a P4P list. Wilder got the better KO percentage, better speed, is younger, got better size (weight class considered) and a better signature win.
I just made a list..... guess what? Wilder isn't on the top 10 & I have GGG up there. Let me guess??? "racism" STFU with the nonsense.Comment
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You had me with this list until you put Danny Garcia in it. I can go with Canelo and Cotto as top ten fighters but not Garcia. The man really lost to Herrera and Peterson.
I know Ward was inactive last year but that doesn't change the fact that he is still one of the worlds most skilled fighters, which is essentially what a P4P list is: A collection of the world's best fighters regardless of weight class.Last edited by Johnwoo8686; 06-25-2015, 01:01 PM.Comment
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I had both fights DSG winning 115-113. In the herrera fights there were many swing rounds & peterson took his foot off the gas when he was starting to pick things up after 6. Close, close fights. Other than that & that BS salka fight, he's beating top fighters, who they put in front of him. But I respect your opinion!
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Daniel Geale got DESTROYED by Golovkin and Cotto and he also lost to Mundine and Darren Barker. Stiverne had his Arreola wins and the jaw to go the distance against Wilder, P4P, Geale is not anywhere near Stiverne.Comment
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I had him beaten by Peterson and drew Herrera, but if he views it from the strictly official standpoint. I mean from the standpoint that Garcia has wins over Matthysse, Khan, Peterson and Herrera, then Garcia is obviously top 10 maybe even top 5. I consider my personal viewpoints on fights too so I haven't got him in the list but it's understandable if someone counts it by the official.Comment
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Golovkin doesn't have even 1 remarkable win and it's about time that people start accepting that fact.From those names only 4 would do anything for his resume, Lemieux, N'dam and Chavez Jr. wouldn't but that's not the point.
I also don't want to tur this thread into a Golovkin vs Ward flame war, only thing what I want to say that eve if his level of competition isn't his fault it still won't make his resume better. It sucks but that's the reality.
I know why Golovkin fans are angry, I'm also angry sometimes as a Rigo fan because nobody wants to fight him and they try to ignore that he holds two belts but it is what it is. Rigo's only luck that he could prove himself on elite level before everybody started to ignore him so I can include him on my P4P list too.Comment
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Honestly you can argue Floyd being moved from #1. He's mostly still ranked there because of popularity but his last three fights have shown he's not #1 anymore.
Gonzales, Kovalev, GGG, Rigo, and Ward have proven to be better fighters at this point in time.
And Deontay being ranked is a joke. Guy hasn't beaten anyone other than Stivern and Stivern only good win was against Arreola who had been both stopped and beaten on points before.Comment
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