My P4P top 10 list

[Rokozoko]

Garbage list.

Honestly I don't like that Floyd is still #1. He hasn't looked pretty at all in the last 1.5 years, but he's still winning & no one else has stepped up to the throne (thanks for losing to Pacquiao, Bradley).

Wlad 2nd.. No real debate. Could be #1 if he grows balls and beats Wilder/Fury.

Kova is 3rd. Pretty clear..

Pac is 4th. Not what he was, but still beats everyone 140-147 alongside Floyd.

Rigo is 5th. Don't like it, but can't deny the talent. Outclasses everybody..

Choco 6th. **** you bum for fighting a washed up Segura instead of Estrada or Inoue.

7. GGG
8. Crawford
9. Bradley.. Beat Vargas convincingly and he goes up..
10 Povetkin (KO wins over Charr, Takam, & Perez are really good; 2 of those guys were HW Top Tens)

Until Wladimir grows some balls and fights Wilder (don't mention Fury, a fight against Fury is just an escape rope for ducking Wilder), then he should be number 3, not 2. You're forgetting Ward, who is behind only Mayweather.

Kovalev is very good, but he is not above Pacquiao yet. In order for that to happen, Pacquiao needs to lose one more fight or Kovalev needs to beat someone like Ward or Stevenson, some major name.

Rigo almost got KO'ed against a Japanese journeyman, he got knocked down by Donaira, he got knocked down by Cordoba. Rigo is a glassjaw and his best win against Donaire got put to shame by Nicholas Walters slaughtering Donaire easily. Rigo doesn't belong in a P4P top 10 list, he got 1 good win, is old and is getting knocked down left and right by everyone and their mother... Rigo is shot and he has been scared of boxing since the Amagasa fight.

Golovkin got no notable wins, so it's not fair to more accomplished fighters to put him in the P4P top 10 list, and Crawford's best win was against Gamboa, who was the better boxer, but completely outsized.

But your list is better than most lists. Rigo is sickly overrated, but he is indeed deserving of being placed higher than hypejobs like Cotto and Canelo.

[soul_survivor]

At least come with some arguments.

I don't normally indulge in useless arguments but you actually have Wilder in at 10, there is no possible argument why he should be there. His biggest win is Stiverne...the second best win is probably a shot Liakhovic or Audley or that bum last time out. You include him out of all the possible names that could have been there.

[Rokozoko]

I don't normally indulge in useless arguments but you actually have Wilder in at 10, there is no possible argument why he should be there. His biggest win is Stiverne...the second best win is probably a shot Liakhovic or Audley or that bum last time out. You include him out of all the possible names that could have been there.

Why is Golovkin deserving of being in the top 10 if Wilder isn't?

Wilder got these advantages:
1: Younger, faster, better size for his weight.
2: Better KO percentage.
3: Stiverne is way better than guys like Geale who gets destroyed by welterweight boxers.

There is no argument for ranking Golovkin above Wilder.

[Rokozoko]

Imagine if Wilder was white and Golovkin was black. Their roles would be reversed. Fury's resume is worse than Wilder's, for example, but Fury is still ranked higher. Stiverne IS better than Chisora.

[Caught Square]

Lol at saying 'Japanese journeyman'. Why not just refer to the guy as a journeyman or Rigo's last fight?

Anyway how did he almost get KO'ed? the first knockdown was a good shot but Rigo got up as usual. 2nd knockdown was more of an overraction from the 1st KD, it weren't really it punch that put him down if i remember rightly. Similar to the Chavez-Martinez fight where Martinez went down a second time and it rightly wasn't ruled a KD.

Rigo is clearly top 10 P4P material, top 5 imo.

[Rokozoko]

Lol at saying 'Japanese journeyman'. Why not just refer to the guy as a journeyman or Rigo's last fight?

Anyway how did he almost get KO'ed? the first knockdown was a good shot but Rigo got up as usual. 2nd knockdown was more of an overraction from the 1st KD, it weren't really it punch that put him down if i remember rightly. Similar to the Chavez-Martinez fight where Martinez went down a second time and it rightly wasn't ruled a KD.

Rigo is clearly top 10 P4P material, top 5 imo.

Please give me 1 reason to put Rigo on a top 10 list while not putting Walters on a top 10 list?

[Caught Square]

Please give me 1 reason to put Rigo on a top 10 list while not putting Walters on a top 10 list?

Well Walters best win is a guy who Rigo already schooled when he was on top of his game with good momentum and Donaire himself was considered top 5 p4p material before he met Rigo. I like Walters and respect his recent success but lets not get carried away with rating him top 10.

I also like Degale and Wilder but they don't warrant top 10. Degale may be top 20 but Wilder is barely top 30 in all honesty.

[HEND]

Please give me 1 reason to put Rigo on a top 10 list while not putting Walters on a top 10 list?

I say this as a big fan both of Rigo and Walters: Rigo beat Donaire when he was ranked on most P4P lists and was fighter of the year last time when they fought. Walters' best win is also Donaire but when he beat Donaire, Donaire was ranked by nobody in P4P top 10 let alone in P4P top 20... He wasn't ranked nowhere. So the Donaire who was beaten by Rigo is probably a better but at least certainly more valuable win than the one Walters beat.

[Caught Square]

I rewatched the round where Rigo was knocked down LMAO the guy was celebrating like the fight was over and as i thought the second knockdown was mainly from him being shoved almost exactly like Martinez-Chavez.

[Rokozoko]

Well Walters best win is a guy who Rigo already schooled when he was on top of his game with good momentum and Donaire himself was considered top 5 p4p material before he met Rigo. I like Walters and respect his recent success but lets not get carried away with rating him top 10.

I also like Degale and Wilder but they don't warrant top 10. Degale may be top 20 but Wilder is barely top 30 in all honesty.

Let's compare Rigo and Walters...

Age: Rigo is old and looked shot in his last fight, Walters is just entering his prime.

Chin: Rigo gets knocked down left and right by everyone like a ragdoll, from Cordoba to Donaire to Amagasa, while Walters ate a heavier Donaire's punches like he had some Carl Froch jaw.

Power: Rigo's power is okay. Walters' power is destructive.

Resume: Rigo got only 15 fights and his only good win was a decision against Donaire, while getting knocked down in the process. Walters crushed and stopped Donaire easily and he beat Marriaga, a dangerous opponent, in his last fight.

Walters is, simply put, better than Rigo.