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  • Easy Work.
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    #11
    Originally posted by Barcham
    Ward at number 2??? The guy has had one fight in a year and a half against an overweight, out of shape clown who's manager is now begging to retire. Ward will not belong back on a P4P list at ANY position until he has beaten at least two top 10 contenders with significant ease.

    I can live without Rigo on a P4P list as with only 15 fights I do not see how he possibly belongs there. But Roman Gonzalez definitely belongs on any valid list. And I agree that DeGale, Wilder and Povetkin have no place on any top ten list. Bradley may be borderline and hold a number 10 spot at the most.
    I like how you are in every thread bashing ward but are an obvious GGG nuthugger. Yet ggg is a guy who has faced nobodys his whole career but ward actually has some good wins

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    • Barcham
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      #12
      Originally posted by SouthPawHitman
      1-TBE
      2-GGG
      3-Ward
      4-Kovalev
      5-Wlad
      6-Rigo
      7-Gonzalez
      8-Canelo
      9-Coral Froch
      10-Manny

      I ran the numbers on this BTW. So its not debatable.
      All P4P lists are debatable and any list with Ward on it is automatically worthless.

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      • ИATAS
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        #13
        Originally posted by Easy Work.
        I like how you are in every thread bashing ward but are an obvious GGG nuthugger. Yet ggg is a guy who has faced nobodys his whole career but ward actually has some good wins
        And yet you know perfectly well why Golovkin doesn't have a better resume. Not his fault Martinez, Cotto, N'Dam, Lemieux, Pirog, Chavez, Froch haven't fought him.

        Regardless, don't make this into a ward vs ggg thread, there are plenty of those. Everyone knows Ward has a better resume, it doesn't take a boxing historian to figure that out. Unfortunately for GGG he never had the luxury of a super six tournament in his division.

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        • Barcham
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          #14
          Originally posted by Easy Work.
          I like how you are in every thread bashing ward but are an obvious GGG nuthugger. Yet ggg is a guy who has faced nobodys his whole career but ward actually has some good wins
          Did I mention Golovkin in my post? Has ANYONE other than YOU mentioned Golovkin in this thread?


          NO!!!

          So how about you just STFU and go away and find another thread to spread your hate in. My opinion regarding Ward is very valid as he has done nothing in over 2 years to deserve inclusion on a P4P list. Such lists, like top 10 rankings, are based on current activity, not historical data.

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          • bigjavi973
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            #15
            Originally posted by Rokozoko
            Rigondeaux is definetely more skilled than Wilder, but Rigondeaux is small, got a glassjaw and is too old, he is on his way out of the game. There is really no point in having Rigondeaux on any P4P top 10 list, remember how he almost got KOed against a Japanese journeyman in his last fight and has done nothing since? I respect Rigo, but he started too late and is as good as finished, while Wilder has barely started.

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            • Loque-san
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              #16
              Originally posted by Rokozoko
              Rigondeaux is definetely more skilled than Wilder, but Rigondeaux is small, got a glassjaw and is too old, he is on his way out of the game. There is really no point in having Rigondeaux on any P4P top 10 list, remember how he almost got KOed against a Japanese journeyman in his last fight and has done nothing since? I respect Rigo, but he started too late and is as good as finished, while Wilder has barely started.
              How is that relevant in a P4P list?

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              • HEND
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                #17
                Originally posted by Rokozoko
                If people disagree (and disagreements are always okay), I would like you to explain why instead of just calling me ******, as I really took time to consider this list. And please, don't say ****** $|-|!T like Alvarez or Cotto deserving to be above Povetkin and DeGale, let's be reasonable.
                No way that from this heavyweight division 3 guys are deserved to be in the P4P top 10 list. With that you basically imply that HW is the best weight class next to welter which would e ridiculous. HW is getting stronger nowadays in my opinion but sill just a mediocre weight class. Only Wlad deserves to be on this list, Povetkin and Wilder not. Wilder's one single good win is Stiverne, Povetkin's two more decent wins are Perez and Takam but both have lesser resume than Canelo for example or maybe I can add Crawford too.
                Rigondeaux deserves to be on that list and I don't know how you forgot Roman Gonzalez too. Estrada is making a case too.
                Some poeple will disagree with you don't put Golovkin on there but with that I actually agree. You aren't in P4P top 10 when your best win is Murray regardless of why is he your best opponent up to date. You have to prove in a real fight not in fantasy fights and period.
                May people will disagree with Degale but I think he is making a case just with his win over Dirrell. His resume got better only with that win than many of the active fighters' today.

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                • bigjavi973
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by BrushMyHair
                  LOL, He even put Walters in there.
                  Just wow. smh

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                  • Rokozoko
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by SouthPawHitman
                    1-TBE
                    2-GGG
                    3-Ward
                    4-Kovalev
                    5-Wlad
                    6-Rigo
                    7-Gonzalez
                    8-Canelo
                    9-Coral Froch
                    10-Manny

                    I ran the numbers on this BTW. So its not debatable.
                    Froch would belong on my list if he wasn't as good as retired. Rigondeaux is completely shot now and his old glassjaw will crack soon, his resume just won't improve and Walters did better against Donaire. Canelo is okay but a hypejob, he lost to Mayweather, Trout and Lara. Golovkin does not have even 1 win on par with Stiverne yet and if Golovkin was black and Wilder was white, their positions would be reversed. I agree with you that Gonzalez is very underrated, though, and when thinking about it, yes, I should probably place him above Wilder as number 10 on my list, making Wilder 11 and Golovkin number 12.

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                    • SouthPawHitman
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Barcham
                      All P4P lists are debatable and any list with Ward on it is automatically worthless.
                      I ran the numbers and this is what the results were. Numbers are not debatable.

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