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  • Weebler I
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    #261
    Originally posted by Eastcoast
    Froch made $12.5mill for the Groves rematch, but that was because Groves refused the initial offer and it went to purse with Carl taking 85%. It was more less an anomaly that he made that much. In addition Groves was the marketing force behind that fight. That card overall generated $35mill, with a little more that $15.5mill going to the fighters.

    If they fight on USppv, I'd imagine they'd be able to take in atleast 300k buys, giving the fighter's a total of about $7mill. Add in gate, MGM site fee, UKppv, and other foreign tv, there's no reason the fighter's total purse wouldn't reach atleast $10mill. Carve up a 60/40 split in Froch's favor and you can ask yourself would Froch take the fight for $6mill min? More than likely he'd make over $10mill depending how the UKppv would carry on a US fight time.
    Eddie Hearn will likely want it in the UK, Loeffler doesn't seem to mind. You really want it Stateside?

    If you're East coast looking to attend it's roughly 5 1/2 hours to fly to London and virtually the same flight time to Vegas (assuming the fight happens of course).

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    • Eastcoast
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      #262
      Originally posted by Weebler I
      Eddie Hearn will likely want it in the UK, Loeffler doesn't seem to mind. You really want it Stateside?

      If you're East coast looking to attend it's roughly 5 1/2 hours to fly to London and virtually the same flight time to Vegas.
      I'd rather see it in the UK where it would generate more buzz and be more celebrated, however there's more money for it the US. If they put it on UK time in the UK, they're pretty much passing up on the US money. HBO might pay $4mill at most for an afternoon fight. Same time there's less expenses to put it in Vegas. MGM would pay a couple mill for site fee. Wembly costs nearly $800k to rent and another $6mill for labor & equipment (something MGM would provide). And how confident are they Golovkin/Froch sells tickets like Groves/Froch II?

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        #263
        Originally posted by Eastcoast
        I'd rather see it in the UK where it would generate more buzz and be more celebrated, however there's more money for it the US. If they put it on UK time in the UK, they're pretty much passing up on the US money. HBO might pay $4mill at most for an afternoon fight. Same time there's less expenses to put it in Vegas. MGM would pay a couple mill for site fee. Wembly costs nearly $800k to rent and another $6mill for labor & equipment (something MGM would provide).

        And how confident are they Golovkin/Froch sells tickets like Groves/Froch II?
        Hearn's main concern is where there will be more money for him, as in Matchroom and by association Sky with whom he has a deal. Only way I could see it going to the US is if Froch pushes him on the Vegas venue.

        Not sure how confident they are of selling out Wembley or even if Hearn was serious. It didn't seem like a Wembley fight to me, but who knows what kind of buzz it could generate if they add fighters to the card (particularly if it's DeGale/Groves).

        I can understand US fans wanting it over there, but from memory there was a decent buzz in the US for Golovkin-Murray and that was in Monaco so it's not a fight I see flying under the radar or the US fans missing out on.
        Last edited by Weebler I; 05-21-2015, 09:10 AM.

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            #265
            Originally posted by Weebler I
            Depends what you mean. British boxing fans know of, and like Golovkin. Casual boxing fans and the man on the street won't know much about him.
            Correct me if I'm mistaken, but boxing is a major sport in the UK? Meaning more boxing fans as opposed to casuals. My point is that perhaps it is not out of the question for Froch-GGG to sell out a big venue, maybe not Wembley's 80k (unless a strong co-main is added), but somewhere with maybe 50k-60k? Keeping in mind that a strong co-main means that the money for the headliners might be a little less due to that

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              #266
              ...but there is no money in that fight doe.

              ...but he needs to clean up 160 before moving up doe.

              ...but why does not Froch moves up and fights xxxx doe.

              ...but Froch has Ward problems doe.

              ...but he needs to fight Floyd, Cotto and Canelo first doe.

              ...but he is a "small" framed MW doe.

              ....on and on and on and on......

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                #267
                Originally posted by BlakBread904
                Correct me if I'm mistaken, but boxing is a major sport in the UK? Meaning more boxing fans as opposed to casuals. My point is that perhaps it is not out of the question for Froch-GGG to sell out a big venue, maybe not Wembley's 80k (unless a strong co-main is added), but somewhere with maybe 50k-60k? Keeping in mind that a strong co-main means that the money for the headliners might be a little less due to that
                It's a niche sport really, but fans will turn out for a big fight if it's well promoted.

                Froch is the biggest name in UK boxing right now so he could probably sell 50k against many legit opponents but Wembley is obviously 80k so it all depends on how it's promoted and maybe who else would be on the card.
                Last edited by Weebler I; 05-21-2015, 02:32 PM.

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                  #268
                  I don't think this will fill Wembley without a decent undercard. Could be wrong, though (i'm aware I said the same thing about Froch-Groves II, Weebs!)

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                    #269
                    Originally posted by yoz
                    I don't think this will fill Wembley without a decent undercard. Could be wrong, though (i'm aware I said the same thing about Froch-Groves II, Weebs!)
                    lol I remember man, but I'm with you this time, I'd venture it needs a strong co-main.

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                      #270
                      Originally posted by !! Shawn
                      I that couldy pond water has clouded your judgment.

                      Since been completely dominated by Andre Ward, he has fought Bute, Yusef Mach, Kesler coming out of retirement, Groves, Groves.

                      The Groves things I am sure is impressive for you brits as its your own super fight on the island, but completely irrelevant in terms of the actual landscape of the division.

                      Now he suddenly has the best resume in recent history?

                      We all still know Andre Ward is the best in the division, and would school Froch in a rematch again, as would Andre Dirrell most likely.

                      I respect Froch, he has massive balls, and puts them where his mouth is, but he is not skilled, he is a tough guy in a division that is fairly weak at the moment, and has managed to out tought all of the guys without the pedigree of Ward, Golovkin, Dirrell, etc...

                      Kudos to him for making it entertaining, but thats all it really was.
                      In terms of who he has fought, there are not many who can match that in recent history. He's literally fought everyone in his generation that he could at 168lbs. And even started on the next generation with Groves.

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