Comments Thread For: Golovkin's Promoter Not Ruling Out Lara Bout

[Szef]

So like a typical GGG fan, you want to see a KO and don't care about the quality of the fight at all as long as your guy is getting a KO. If he isn't getting a KO there is no point in GGG fighting them then.

No, I want to see Golovkin KO Lara, not just a KO. Coincidentally, it is a quality fight as well.

So is Geale - Cotto.

But everybody shit on it (and rightfully so) because Cotto - Golovkin would've been even better (most unifications are), and Golovkin would've taken it in a heartbeat.

But a diva is a diva.

But you're a rigo fan? Sense, you do not make any

If you can't see the diffrence beetwen Lara and Rigo, you're a fuckin idiot.

And you actually are an idiot, so your response didn't surprise me at all.

[kafkod]

But theres no money in a Ward fight

Not enough to pay Ward's wages, even if GGG fought for free. Andre wants $2million for tune-up fights. How much do you think he would want for fighting GGG?

[Achcauhtli]

HBO should let GGG fight off the station for this fight. I want to see Lara beat up and knock out. I call a GGG win by horrendous ko in 8

[cheeseburger]

I didn't say he didn't deserve a shot at it either, I'm saying he should challenge himself. Beating Cotto by decapitation is the expectation of that fight, people enjoy watching that I acknowledge that. I prefer guys challenging themselves. In this case it's moving up in weight, in the case of Kovalev it was facing Hopkins and now Stevenson. Each case of challenging yourself is different, for GGG the answer is moving up because there is no one 160 below who can be competitive for more than 2 or 3 rounds.

Also he would make more money at 168 eventually fighting Ward and Froch, than he would get not fighting Canelo and Cotto but staying at 160.

Just because you think there a no challenges at the weight doesn't mean GGG should moveup. GGG should clear out 160lbs and establish a legacy there just like Hopkins and co have done before him. Ward was allowed to clear out his division as well and there is not nearly same amount pressure the Ricans on this forum for Ward to move up and challenge himself even though he has no challenges at 168. Double standards.

[i'm a fun haver]

So GGG fans... why does Lara have to move up to 160 to be considered an opponent but Gabe Rosado didn't have to?

Rosado fought GGG at 160lbs and on HBO.
If Lara really wants that fight and isn't talking then that's what he will have to do as well.
It's right there in the article.
Is it all that salt water that makes you guys so dense mentally? Are you new to the English language?
What's the problem?

[HI-TECH Boxing]

I'm not hating, I want competition. Who in their right mind thinks Cotto beats GGG seriously? No one, I don't care if Cotto gives up the belt or not it's a mismatch. GGG/Canelo is a mismatch...

If GGG fights the same level of fighter at 168 as he does at 160, he'd still get more credit because it's a DIVISION HIGHER. They WILL handle is power better, they WILL throw stronger punches, the WILL push GGG more. As a fan that's what I want, not a ****ing mismatches like we've been getting.

I'm a Miami fan, I'd rather they play the Ravens, Pats and Broncos more than the ****ing Redskins, Bucs and Browns because they are tough games. Even if they lose at least I know how good they are, beating up on **** or smaller guys doesn't do **** for me. It might satisfy some of the clowns on here who watch boxing for violence, I watch for the art and sweet science of it.

Tyson running through guys, I could care less he wasn't a great fighter. GGG running through guys, he could be great he's proved at MW. Now, he can move up in weight. Tyson couldn't do that but he stepped up competition. Instead you GGG fans look for reasons for him to AVOID challenging himself and then proclaim he's the baddest man on the planet. I say the same thing, he is the baddest man on the planet but I want him to prove it, not just run his mouth. A win over any SMW is better than a win over Cotto, period the end. Even if Cotto is the best fighter he's faced and Cotto would be, the size makes it a mismatch.

So it's not hate, it's wanting a guy to test himself not pick on smaller guys and then have his fans make excuse after excuse for it. I give Canelo **** for making JMW's fight at MW, even by a pound. I'm not a stan, I don't play both sides of the ****ing fence. Don't make a guy from JMW move up to face you, especially AFTER you beat every MW out there. What the ****? Cotto might be fighting leftovers at a CW, he's not fighting left overs, in a division lower and making them move up. GGG can move up, make money, albeit not as much but earn my respect.

He doesn't do that, he wants money and I get that. But so do Cotto, Canelo and every other fighter out there. I'm hearing he can't do Ward because Ward isn't a PPV fighter. Neither is GGG, he needs Canelo and Cotto because they ARE PPV fighters, without them GGG won't get paid. GGG isn't a PPV fighter though, so why do Canelo and Cotto want to fight him?

That was a better post with good points. But there's an aspect to the game called business. GGG is becoming a bigger star after every fight, right now he just needs that guy to pass him over to real stardom. Those guys are Cotto and Canelo, nobody at 168 would pass him over. Do you think Ward, Dirrell and Degale would want GGG right now or when it's a bigger money fight for them? If they let GGG clean up the Middleweight division and he beats Cotto and Canelo, GGG will become huge in the States (probably not Mayweather or Pacquiao big but still a pretty a big star) and if they do their part and start cleaning up their division they will also set themselves up for a big fight with GGG for the future. I'm 100% sure that someone like Degale would face rather face GGG when it's a bigger fight than in a year. Do you think if Degale beats Dirrell, him and his promoters would face GGG right now? I don't and it's not because they are scared, but it's a big risk low reward if they were to fight anytime soon. Degale's promoter is not going to take a big chance, if Degale beats Dirrell, he's going to want his guy to start building up his name in the UK and possibly America. He's going to try and make Degale's name big, so Degale can have big money fights in the future. Who will be Degale's big money fight, most likely GGG or Ward, I doubt we will ever see Degale at 175. So Degale can wait, he's not in a rush. They will let that fight become bigger. Ward probably prefers GGG to beat Canelo and Cotto first so him and GGG could have a big fight down the road.

By the way Lara is the one calling out GGG, Loeffler is just saying he's down for it

Plus, why doesn't any of the guys at 168 want to clean up THEIR division, why does it have to be GGG? What's next, GGG should move up and face real competition at Light-Heavyweight.
How about Degale or Ward start cleaning up their respective division, which will take them as long as GGG cleaning up 160 because they don't stay as active as Golovkin. By the time they are almost done, GGG would have cleaned up 160 he'll be a pretty big star and he'll move up to face the top guy at 168 (who should have 168 pretty much cleaned up by then) in a fight with the Undisputed Middlweight Champion challenging the Undisputed Super Middleweight Champion.

GGG and K2 have done an excellent job at marketing this guy, he's only been fighting in America for 2.5 years, and he's already bigger star than most. Only Mayweather, Pacquiao, Cotto and Canelo have him beat. This guy is from freaking Kazakhstan and he made it over here in America, how amazing is that, with a lot of support from the Mexican community (hispanics in general). If anything people should try to do what GGG has been doing. People can't even say this guy is not a draw anymore because he could sell in the West and East coast. Why would Cotto and Canelo want to fight him? Because other than facing each other, GGG is probably the only fight that can be a successful PPV.

[kafkod]

So GGG fans... why does Lara have to move up to 160 to be considered an opponent but Gabe Rosado didn't have to?

Uh? GGG vs Rosado was at 160.

GGG vs Lara would be at 160 too. No difference there.

[Beater_of_ass]

It's funny how many comments posted by GGG haters start like that. It's hard to be rational if your brain isn't built for it, but you could at least try to be honest.

Thurman is one of my favorite fighters but... there is no way he beats Floyd. What else can I say to undermine my favorite fighters? Cotto IS my favorite fighter but... he is an as$hole and is a diva making it hard to make fights happen. Everyone has a flaw, no one is perfect wtf... GGG is one of my favorite fighters, I don't want to see him in fights he'll handily win.

Unreal how if you hold a fighter accountable it means you're a hater. If he's my favorite fighter I'm supposed to ride his jock and not talk about any of his flaws. Yet, if I did that I'd be a stan, get over yourself it's called fair criticism.

[bigjavi973]

Rosado fought GGG at 160lbs and on HBO.
If Lara really wants that fight and isn't talking then that's what he will have to do as well.
It's right there in the article.
Is it all that salt water that makes you guys so dense mentally? Are you new to the English language?
What's the problem?

Do you know how to read? I mean, how to read properly that is?

Loeffer said it himself that Lara has to move up to 160 to be CONSIDERED!

Did Rosado have to move up to 160 to be CONSIDERED an opponent or was his previous fight before GGG at 154 then he fought GGG at 160 yes or no?

[Heavyfist]

The same goes for GGG when it comes to Cotto and Canelo. Stop hiring Lindsay Lohan to star in your "Big Drama Show" and pay the money for Natalie Portman to raise your star level as well as the level of the show. Does he beat both? Probably. But he brings less to the table for Cotto and Canelo than Ward does for him. Not being a big draw works both ways.

No the same doesn't go for GGG. AT ALL.

GGG is a mando to Cottos belt.

Lara is not a mando and doesn't even fight in the same weight class.

GGG is the undisputed MW king. Period. Lara is not the undisputed anything.

GGG is already a star. Lara is not.

The boxing public is clamoring for GGG to fight Canelo or Cotto. Canelo and Oscar are asked on a daily basis if they are going to fight GGG, when are they going to fight him?

The boxing public is not asking for anyone to fight Lara.

Completely, completely, completely, different situations. And finally, GGG is the fugging mando to Cottos belt.

Is Lara a Mando? No. So by your rationale, Lara needs to first move to 160 and become a mando, and in which case GGG will of course fight him. If Lara earns the fight, there would be zero issues.

GGG worked his way to Cottos belt. Obviously, Cotto and Canelo would never dream of fighting GGG unless they had to.

Situations are completely incomparable. Your whole premise is flawed and incorrect.