Comments Thread For: Golovkin's Promoter Not Ruling Out Lara Bout

[bigjavi973]

Uh? GGG vs Rosado was at 160.

GGG vs Lara would be at 160 too. No difference there.

So Rosado had to move up to 160 to be considered an opponent for GGG?

So Rosado had a fight at 160 PRIOR to his GGG fight?

Remember, he has to move up to 160 in order to be CONSIDERED for a fight.

[HanzGruber]

No, I want to see Golovkin KO Lara, not just a KO. Coincidentally, it is a quality fight as well.

So is Geale - Cotto.

But everybody shit on it (and rightfully so) because Cotto - Golovkin would've been even better (most unifications are), and Golovkin would've taken it in a heartbeat.

But a diva is a diva.



If you can't see the diffrence beetwen Lara and Rigo, you're a fuckin idiot.

And you actually are an idiot, so your response didn't surprise me at all.

I'm a fan of rigo and lara but you act like rigo isn't a defensive fighter while shltting on lara for being defensive

[Beater_of_ass]

That was a better post with good points. But there's an aspect to the game called business. GGG is becoming a bigger star after every fight, right now he just needs that guy to pass him over to real stardom. Those guys are Cotto and Canelo, nobody at 168 would pass him over. Do you think Ward, Dirrell and Degale would want GGG right now or when it's a bigger money fight for them? If they let GGG clean up the Middleweight division and he beats Cotto and Canelo, GGG will become huge in the States (probably not Mayweather or Pacquiao big but still a pretty a big star) and if they do their part and start cleaning up their division they will also set themselves up for a big fight with GGG for the future. I'm 100% sure that someone like Degale would face rather face GGG when it's a bigger fight than in a year. Do you think if Degale beats Dirrell, him and his promoters would face GGG right now? I don't and it's not because they are scared, but it's a big risk low reward if they were to fight anytime soon. Degale's promoter is not going to take a big chance, if Degale beats Dirrell, he's going to want his guy to start building up his name in the UK and possibly America. He's going to try and make Degale's name big, so Degale can have big money fights in the future. Who will be Degale's big money fight, most likely GGG or Ward, I doubt we will ever see Degale at 175. So Degale can wait, he's not in a rush. They will let that fight become bigger. Ward probably prefers GGG to beat Canelo and Cotto first so him and GGG could have a big fight down the road.

By the way Lara is the one calling out GGG, Loeffler is just saying he's down for it

Plus, why doesn't any of the guys at 168 want to clean up THEIR division, why does it have to be GGG? What's next, GGG should move up and face real competition at Light-Heavyweight.
How about Degale or Ward start cleaning up their respective division, which will take them as long as GGG cleaning up 160 because they don't stay as active as Golovkin. By the time they are almost done, GGG would have cleaned up 160 he'll be a pretty big star and he'll move up to face the top guy at 168 (who should have 168 pretty much cleaned up by then) in a fight with the Undisputed Middlweight Champion challenging the Undisputed Super Middleweight Champion.

GGG and K2 have done an excellent job at marketing this guy, he's only been fighting in America for 2.5 years, and he's already bigger star than most. Only Mayweather, Pacquiao, Cotto and Canelo have him beat. This guy is from freaking Kazakhstan and he made it over here in America, how amazing is that, with a lot of support from the Mexican community (hispanics in general). If anything people should try to do what GGG has been doing. People can't even say this guy is not a draw anymore because he could sell in the West and East coast. Why would Cotto and Canelo want to fight him? Because other than facing each other, GGG is probably the only fight that can be a successful PPV.

I do understand the business, more than you obviously. GGG isn't PPV, why should Canelo and Cotto fight him? It's not different than GGG saying Ward isn't PPV why should he fight him? The draw thing works both ways, GGG PPV caliber yet so why should Cotto and Canelo only go off their names for all the risk? Exactly like GGG is thinking, he's not PPV but he's a much bigger draw than Ward.

Also, 168 was already cleaned up by a guy named Ward. It'd be the guy who cleared 160 vs the guy who cleared 168... That's a great ****ing fight to make, GGG and company aren't too eager because it's not going to make much money. Cotto/GGG would make money... but Cotto/Canelo and Cotto/Mayweather II make more.

As for the last paragraph I could care less.

[Fetta]

Beat fighter he will have fought

[T18Z]

I do understand the business, more than you obviously. GGG isn't PPV, why should Canelo and Cotto fight him? It's not different than GGG saying Ward isn't PPV why should he fight him? The draw thing works both ways, GGG PPV caliber yet so why should Cotto and Canelo only go off their names for all the risk? Exactly like GGG is thinking, he's not PPV but he's a much bigger draw than Ward.

Also, 168 was already cleaned up by a guy named Ward. It'd be the guy who cleared 160 vs the guy who cleared 168... That's a great ****ing fight to make, GGG and company aren't too eager because it's not going to make much money. Cotto/GGG would make money... but Cotto/Canelo and Cotto/Mayweather II make more.

As for the last paragraph I could care less.

Cotto is essentially holding the lineal title and WBC belt hostage from Golovkin. He'll happily give Geale, a lesser draw by far and someone Golovkin murdered in 3 rounds a shot at the lineal title, but not the person who actually deserves it.

If Cotto wants to avoid him fine, but vacate the title instead of being a little b1tch.

You're one dense mo-****er.

[Heavyfist]

So Rosado had to move up to 160 to be considered an opponent for GGG?

So Rosado had a fight at 160 PRIOR to his GGG fight?

Remember, he has to move up to 160 in order to be CONSIDERED for a fight.

WTF does Rosado have to do with this? In case you haven't noticed GGG has risen like a phoenix since then.

So your argument is because GGG fought Rosado, who went up from 154, then every single fighter at 154 who wants to fight GGG, should automatically get a shot?

Ridiculous.

And where did Team GGG say he has to first fight at 160? They just said he needs to come up to 160 for the fight, that they aren't going down.

And yes, thats how fights are made. They are first considered, and then a decision is made. Unless you think fighters just blindly sign their names on blank sheets?

You're just afraid GGG would end Cotto. And you are right to be afraid. Let Cotto vacate his belt, and retire. GGG is the ruler of MW. No one changes that.

[i'm a fun haver]

Do you know how to read? I mean, how to read properly that is?

Loeffer said it himself that Lara has to move up to 160 to be CONSIDERED!

Did Rosado have to move up to 160 to be CONSIDERED an opponent or was his previous fight before GGG at 154 then he fought GGG at 160 yes or no?

CONSIDERED AS AN OPPONENT FOR GGG!
Considerado como un rival para GGG!
He gotta go up to 160 n sheeeeit so's he be considered a opponet fo' GG!

What other language do you want?

[Beater_of_ass]

Cotto is essentially holding the lineal title and WBC belt hostage from Golovkin. He'll happily give Geale, a lesser draw by far and someone Golovkin murdered in 3 rounds a shot at the lineal title, but not the person who actually deserves it.

You're one dense mo-****er.

He is using his voluntary. A voluntary that is given to every newly crowned champion after they win a WBC title. A voluntary against a former 2 time MW champion and ranked 4th currently in the world.

Yes, GGG beat him it was also GGG's best win, good show by Golovkin. It doesn't mean a guy who started at 140 as opposed to 160 (like GGG) is supposed to have an easier time with him.

[T18Z]

He is using his voluntary. A voluntary that is given to every newly crowned champion after they win a WBC title. A voluntary against a former 2 time MW champion and ranked 4th currently in the world.

Yes, GGG beat him it was also GGG's best win, good show by Golovkin. It doesn't mean a guy who started at 140 as opposed to 160 (like GGG) is supposed to have an easier time with him.

Remind me why the lineal and WBC champion is giving a fighter like Geale the opportunity, even when Golovkin would bring Cotto more money?

Ah right, because he knows he'll get smashed so he's trying to milk the belt for as long as possible before he's stripped.

[DreamerUSA]

I'm replying to just about the dumbest thing I read in here, out of a lot of dumb in this post. All three of those not counting Ward, are far and away more accomplished than all but Geale on GGG's resume. That's called a step up, but for some reason... a former JWW in his 4th weightclass is a bigger challenge? Canelo is an easier fight than those guys... The GGG excuse brigade is out in full force, what a joke.

Seriously. Just stop. Groves claim to fame is what? Two L's to Froch and a decision over Degale. What has Degale done? Has some decent wins on his resume, but no real names and lost to Groves. Dirrell has done what exactly, at least recently? Nothing These are the guys you want GGG to step up to fight? Just straight up LOL. Not to mention you want to **** on him for possibly fighting a "smaller" guy, but have no problem with him fighting guys larger than him. Every 168lber of note is larger than GGG.

Also of all these guys. Who is going to be available in Septemeber? Hmm? Dirrell and Degale are fighting. Ward is fighting Smith and it looks like we will probably get Jack vs Groves. Froch does'nt seem motivated to fight GGG. So where does that leave GGG with opponents at 168 even if he wanted to move up and we don't even know if these guys want a piece of GGG.

That said. I think he should be making the best available fights to him and atm that appears to be Lara if Lara is serious and GGG's team makes an offer. Actually I'll be in here ****ting on GGG if he does'nt get Lara or possibly Lee next. Lee should be the fight he really goes after if he can't get Cotto. I mean Lee has a name, legit strap and it would be a good payday if done in Ireland. Actually that fight has so much upside for both guys that its dumb for them not to fight.