Comments Thread For: Golden Boy, ABC, WBO Join In Pending Haymon Lawsuit

[mathed]

Like I've been saying, it is only going to get dirty and this is only the beginning. Apparently, I'm not the only one out there "hating" on Hymen.

[SchoolTheseCats]

And ABC is ****** considering they are sister stations with ESPN, whom Haymon cut a deal with to air some of his bouts. SMFH.

It's the American boxers association not the TV channel abc lol

[bigdunny1]

This is just the beginning. Other promoters will join in. Only ones who won't are the few promoters Haymon uses as front men for PBC. So far this is the second lawsuit from Golden Boy against Haymon. Top Rank already sued him. Kathy Duva had a lawsuit against him. You got ESPN posting a article on their front page yesterday about how Haymon is controlling everything from the shadows and skirting the Ali act. HBO blasted Haymon late last year. Everybody knows he is in violation of the Ali act and that he is double dipping as manager and promoter. Haymon created a lot of enemies.

[ramplamp]

Any obstacle placed in Haymon's way brings a smile to my face. He's the only person in boxing that I actively dislike. Although Santa Cruz and Khan come close too...

edit: that wasn't true. Stephen Espinoza is equally unlikable.

[Barcham]

It's nice to see that the ABC are avid readers of boxingscene and of our little forum. Both the main site and the forum are referenced in foot notes in the letter to the AG.

[Scipio2009]

People aren't seeing the forest through the trees.

Folks lined up against Haymon/PBC:

Oscar
WBO
Associations of Boxing Commisions
Main Events
Top Rank

common link? They're all tied into what can now be looked as the old guard of boxing, where short-sited promoters would run to HBO for whatever fee they were willing to pay, put on a **** fight more often then not after not investing much in the fight beyond the main event.

Haymon is blowing up that model, creating a new one in it's place.

Unify the presentation under a common brand, put the fighters at the forefront (ahead of the promoters, ring card girls, sanctioning bodies, announcers, or anyone else that could be put forward to distract), and offer the fights on the broadest medium possible, even if you have to do so with your own money.

If Haymon is proven to be successful, the old guard of boxing dies; HBO will cease to be in the boxing business, facing the reality that they can no longer compete with securing the best fights possible, by a factor of 2 or 3 (The fighters locked into never-ending HBO deals, seeing their peers secure two and three time the money for their purse, won't make that mistake twice).

Top Rank, with it's history and the solid relationship with TimeWarner, will be able to hang around for a while, but not that much longer. K2 has enough international business to be okay through the Klitschko/Golovkin window.

Golden Boy and Main Events are dead in the water once the HBO spigots closes.

And, the new world, DiBella of dBe, GoossenTutor, Marguiles of Warriors Boxing, Michel of GYM, Mayweather Promotions, Eddie Hearn of Matchroom Sport, etc (the first adopters of the PBC-based model) will drive the face of boxing going forward, as the remnants of the old guard hope to play nice at some point.

feast or famine for Oscar, at this point, especially knowing that he's tied a significant chunk of his starpower and value in his 90% stake of a boxing promotion with only one, for sure, bankable fighter.

[Eff Pandas]

I wonder if his investors will be willing to pay for his legal defense. They are investing in a boxing/television project, not in Haymon. If this gets really hairy in court, they may well use it as grounds to break their own contracts with Haymon and the PBC and leave them high and dry.

His investors are investing in a league it sounded like from the last big article. So if there is no league I'd assume there are no investors & long live HBO vs Showtime & the 4 world champions landscape that everyone seems to love so much since PBC came into the game.

[mathed]

I think it's because , word on the wire , Haymon has been attempting to create his own sanctioning body . If that's true , is that even possible with him already being a promoter / advisor / manager / accountant / life coach / mentor / step-dad / El Capitan / consigliere / CEO / CFO /

That's what I said his plan was from day one but I got blasted for being a conspiracy theorist, just hating, lol. To me, at least, it was pretty clear from the jump where all this was heading.....creating the belts, isolating his boxers from the rest of boxing, etc. That's certainly his right to do but the rest of the boxing community isn't just going to let him take money out of their pockets.

[Scipio2009]

WBO is the shadiest of the shady.

ABC and ESPN are together, and haymon's PBC is a part of that now, Right?

the Association of Boxing Commisions (ie the rules spiel that you often here referred to on HBO)

[Mitchell Kane]

This is just the beginning. Other promoters will join in. Only ones who won't are the few promoters Haymon uses as front men for PBC. So far this is the second lawsuit from Golden Boy against Haymon. Top Rank already sued him. Kathy Duva had a lawsuit against him. You got ESPN posting a article on their front page yesterday about how Haymon is controlling everything from the shadows and skirting the Ali act. HBO blasted Haymon late last year. Everybody knows he is in violation of the Ali act and that he is double dipping as manager and promoter. Haymon created a lot of enemies.

Thomas Hauser's been saying it for years.

Probably time I go back and re-read some of Thomas Hauser's Haymon articles, like this one...

http://www.boxingscene.com/what-al-haymon-planning--79627