How would Ali fare in todays HW division?

[Weltschmerz]

Special Olympics?



You know all professional combat sports have weightclasses right?

Damn, if Ali was boxing today he'd have access to the same training methods as those today, he wouldn't have to tear up his draft papers and he'd fight through his prime and be the greatest of this time.

The basic talent of speed kills being sharpened into boxing skills and ringmastery would easily confound the stumbling Klitschkos.

Ali would make them look completely one dimensional.

It is funny you say this, because I have participated in numerous debates where the nostalgic people maintain that todays training methods, technology, nutrition, etc. don't really make a difference.

Which means that if you would take Ali and put him in a time machine, without access to all of this, he would still beat everybody.

James Jeffries was a tremendous athlete for instance, and he fought 100 years ago.

[Kagami Taiga]

Even if you thought Foreman could beat Wlad for whatever reason, how would that relate to Ali beating Wlad because triangle theories fail all of the time and the best examples of how Wlad has done against athletic smaller opponents are the fights he has fought.

That's not what I was relating it to. I was relating it to the fact that u said Foreman was crude, which he really wasn't. He was a rough fighter with a big punch. But he's still light years better than any heavyweight in the world not named Klitchsko.

[Kagami Taiga]

It burns deep inside that African Americans are getting walloped around the ring by Eastern Euros

Stay salty, bruh

And keep up the nostalgia, always is a feel good for boxing aficionados.

U love to make everything an out race huh? It's ok. Let that **** go, it'll eat u up.

[Spray_resistant]

That's not what I was relating it to. I was relating it to the fact that u said Foreman was crude, which he really wasn't. He was a rough fighter with a big punch. But he's still light years better than any heavyweight in the world not named Klitchsko.

I don't see that in any of his fights, as you said he was just a rough fighter, with a big punch, and big for his era.

[Amandlala]

It is funny you say this, because I have participated in numerous debates where the nostalgic people maintain that todays training methods, technology, nutrition, etc. don't really make a difference.

Which means that if you would take Ali and put him in a time machine, without access to all of this, he would still beat everybody.

James Jeffries was a tremendous athlete for instance, and he fought 100 years ago.

I think improved training methods, especially nutrition/supplements make a huge difference.

And as the world has got smaller different methods have come together from around the world. So of course he'd have to be allowed to prepare for about 6-9 months with modern methods before launching his 2015 (well okay 2016) career.

It wouldn't be a fair fight otherwise.

I use the same thoughts when I put together my GOAT.

[AntonTheMeh]

he would have been pretty good. a lot of people forget that ali was essentially robbed of his prime and still ended up the greatest heavyweight of all time.

[-PBP-]

It burns deep inside that African Americans are getting walloped around the ring by Eastern Euros

Stay salty, bruh

And keep up the nostalgia, always is a feel good for boxing aficionados.

Breathe Booty Dew breathe. Everything will be OK. Your fighters will have their turn. Someday.

[Elroy1]

- Muhammad Ali would never fight in the HW division today, he is a Cruiserweight. Under modern training and nutrition, he could/would beef up to a real HW also of course.

- At Cruiserweight he would already find himself in deep water.

- At heavyweight there's really never anybody in the top 10 that he would be able to beat with any kind of credibility to be there.

- There is the chance for him to bum his way to the top ten of course but todays bums are significantly tougher than the bums that Ali fought so it's very difficult to imagine Ali ever making an apperarance on a world stage.

- Muhammad Ali's main income today would come from marketing himself as a sparring partner for real HW's so they might become accustomed to smaller faster opponents in preparation for a fight with David Haye or something like that.

[Hype job]

Breathe Booty Dew breathe. Everything will be OK. Your fighters will have their turn. Someday.

They're having it right now

[Mooshashi]

Pre 3.5 year draft layoff beats anyone who ever stepped into the ring.

Post layoff....he's competitive with everyone but not a lock to beat everyone. He lost to Leon Spinks ffs.

Can we all just move along now and talk about Floyd and Manny ad nauseum?