How would Ali fare in todays HW division?

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  • Money Shot
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    #41
    Current Wlad wouldn't be easy to unseat for any previous champion, even at 39. I think Ali would beat everybody else although only by decision the top 5.

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      #42
      Originally posted by Kagami Taiga
      Crude in comparison to what? Jab, JAb, straight right, hold when they get close? Vlad is an at heavyweight but his style isn't exactly sophisticated. I'm pretty confident a prime Foreman would knock Vlad out. Just sayin.
      Even if you thought Foreman could beat Wlad for whatever reason, how would that relate to Ali beating Wlad because triangle theories fail all of the time and the best examples of how Wlad has done against athletic smaller opponents are the fights he has fought.

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      • Larry the boss
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        #43
        He would be the king of the division

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        • Amandlala
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          #44
          Originally posted by Hype job
          But he didn't face the other #1 p4p when it mattered which tained his legacy

          Plus heavyweight has always been the most historically significant division, the other divisions are basically like the special Olympics!

          The term does work because it was so common back then and now there is an avid search for the great black hope to beat Kovalev, Wlad and GGG


          Special Olympics?



          You know all professional combat sports have weightclasses right?

          Damn, if Ali was boxing today he'd have access to the same training methods as those today, he wouldn't have to tear up his draft papers and he'd fight through his prime and be the greatest of this time.

          The basic talent of speed kills being sharpened into boxing skills and ringmastery would easily confound the stumbling Klitschkos.

          Ali would make them look completely one dimensional.

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            #45
            Originally posted by Kagami Taiga
            None of those guys are even close to what Ali was. And Foreman was a monster. I dunno how u don't rate the guy high. When Ali beat him, he was running through everything that even sniffed the heavyweight division. And tbh, he was a more capable heavyweight than Vlad.
            Foreman had monster power but was very crude, clumsy, slow and uncoordinated, Klitschko (esp Vitali) beat him handily!

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              #46
              Originally posted by Hype job
              But he didn't face the other #1 p4p when it mattered which tained his legacy

              Plus heavyweight has always been the most historically significant division, the other divisions are basically like the special Olympics!

              The term does work because it was so common back then and now there is an avid search for the great black hope to beat Kovalev, Wlad and GGG
              Denial and bitterness makes for one angry troll. This fight is projected to generate $300 million but "da heavyweights are more significant doe". " He didn't fight the best doe", "we have GGG and Kovalev doe".

              The dominance has been so persistent that you have to claim fighters from multiple countries. And boxing is a pimple on an elephant's ass in terms of American sports. And the US STILL has the 2 best fighters in the world p4p. That's gotta hurt your soul Booty Dew.
              Last edited by -PBP-; 04-26-2015, 04:49 PM.

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              • Larry the boss
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                #47
                Originally posted by Skip Bayless
                boxing as a sport and nutrition as an industry has seen such rapid advancement over the last 40 years that the heavyweight boxers from 1970s are no stronger than modern day bantam weight boxers. muhammad ali vs rigo is a much more realistic fight, i give the edge to rigo
                Ali would have modern day training and nutrition

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                • Chrismart
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                  #48
                  He would be sat pretty on top of the division. As would many, many others from his era.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Mr 117-111
                    Denial and bitterness makes for one angry troll. This fight is projected to generate $300 million but "da heavyweights are more significant doe". " He didn't fight the best doe", "we have GGG and Kovalev doe".

                    The dominance has been so persistent that you have to claim fighters from multiple countries.


                    It burns deep inside that African Americans are getting walloped around the ring by Eastern Euros

                    Stay salty, bruh

                    And keep up the nostalgia, always is a feel good for boxing aficionados.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by -Weltschmerz-
                      I don't know about the fitzsimmons comment,however hes spot on with Ali,dunddee and Cosell was his voice and truly exaggerated him.I would see him in top ten today still if it was Ali of 74 however im not sure where,i could easily see him losing to the bigger quicker guys today he never had fought before.One other thing wrong with the vid..Frazier BEAT Ali....I hope Mr.Corso watches this one since im apparently a know nothing since I said Dundee was not a real trainer.
                      Last edited by juggernaut666; 04-26-2015, 05:00 PM.

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