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  • Originally posted by Mr 117-111 View Post
    He is greatest in his time that's self promoting. Did Ali say he is greater than Sugar ray robinson? Nope..

    That's the difference.. you can harp TBE, but calling a great ones name to self promote your better than him. That's pathetic..

    Big difference. Ali looks good hying he's the greatest.. but he NEVER MENTIONS NAMES OF THE PAST.

    IT'S CALLED RESPECT.
    Last edited by Spoon23; 04-21-2015, 11:14 PM.

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    • Originally posted by !! Shawn View Post
      p4p though, Rigondeaux trumphs him, as well as Ricardo Lopez, I'd also argue Ivan Calderon. Two of the least appreciated bust most sublimely skilled fighters of recent times.
      Based on............you know what...never mind.

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      • Originally posted by Spoon23 View Post
        As an athlete you can tell yourself your the best in the current contenders in your time, but to anoint yourself you better than others that's blasphemy. Only boxing fans have a right to call who they think is the greatest, and last time I checked he;s no where near that lol Jeez pathetic.. He will be humbled on May 2. can't wait.
        Anyone involved with the sport, no matter how little, has an opinion who's the greatest...whether they are fans, trainers, fighters, writers, officials etc..

        Why are you pretending that only fans have a say? If only fans decided, popular limited fighters like Broner, Canelo and Garcia would be held is much higher esteem, right?

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        • Originally posted by Spoon23 View Post
          He is greatest in his time that's self promoting. Did Ali say he is great than Sugar ray robinson? Nope..

          That's the difference.. you can harp TBE, but calling a great ones name to self promote your better than him. That's pathetic..

          Big difference. Ali looks good hying he's the greatest.. but he NEVER MENTIONS NAMES OF THE PAST.

          IT'S CALLED RESPECT.
          How about when he called Joe Louis an Uncle Tom? Very respectful.

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          • Originally posted by Mr 117-111 View Post
            Based on............you know what...never mind.

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            • Originally posted by techliam View Post
              Anyone involved with the sport, no matter how little, has an opinion who's the greatest...whether they are fans, trainers, fighters, writers, officials etc..

              Why are you pretending that only fans have a say? If only fans decided, popular limited fighters like Broner, Canelo and Garcia would be held is much higher esteem, right?
              You are rated by your performance in your pro career.

              I can say I'm the greatest in my chosen profession let's say boxing, but it won't hold any bearing, coz boxing fans and boxing analyst, historians that are fans too are the ones who anoints who they think is the greatest. No fighter can dictate that.

              accolades can go along way, but rating different era's of fighters are rated by boxing historians and fans who gets the majority of the vote.

              Key word 'MAJORITY' - Floyd is no where near majority..

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              • Originally posted by Furn View Post
                I've heard Kobe say he isn't worthy of even be compared to Jordan.
                What, when he first hit the pros? I recall him talking about how he'd beat him one on one

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                • Floyd wears this attitude like a bullet proof vest, and you can't hold that against him. He holds a strong mental disposition for what he does. And he is truly an all time great boxer.

                  That said; no fighter from this era can compare themselves to a fighter like Ray Robinson. It will ALWAYS be disingenuous.

                  Back in those days, decades before the sport had the type of safety measures in place that it does now, guys like Ray Robinson fought every week.

                  If Floyd, Manny, or really anyone you want to name fought the way they used to (more rounds, smaller gloves, more frequently, less money, less assurance, etc. etc.) they would not look nearly as photogenic as they currently do and they would all have more losses. They wouldn't have as much money either.

                  Anyways- everyone here already knows this. Just felt like saying it again.

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                  • LLS at people being mad and upset over the opinion a man has of himself.

                    Something is wrong with the world when a person can't have an opinion of themselves.

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                    • Originally posted by Mike_R View Post
                      Floyd wears this attitude like a bullet proof vest, and you can't hold that against him. He holds a strong mental disposition for what he does. And he is truly an all time great boxer.

                      That said; no fighter from this era can compare themselves to a fighter like Ray Robinson. It will ALWAYS be disingenuous.

                      Back in those days, decades before the sport had the type of safety measures in place that it does now, guys like Ray Robinson fought every week.

                      If Floyd, Manny, or really anyone you want to name fought the way they used to (more rounds, smaller gloves, more frequently, less money, less assurance, etc. etc.) they would not look nearly as photogenic as they currently do and they would all have more losses. They wouldn't have as much money either.

                      Anyways- everyone here already knows this. Just felt like saying it again.
                      Nope.

                      It's called insecurity.

                      You can call yourself the best in your time. that's fine, That's confidence, but to say your the best from other era's that you haven't faced. that's blasphemy.

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