Mean Events pull out of Stevenson Purse Bid

[sicko]

This is all on Adonis Stevenson and GYM. They should of made this happen in 2013....... They ducked, and now Duva is trying to ruin Kovalev.



Nobody but Adonis/GYM/Haymon should be blamed here. Fight should of been happened. No excuses

That is Bull**** but no surprise coming from you, the fight is bigger now than it was in 2013 when neither fighter was as known as they are now so how does that even make sense?

[The Gambler1981]

Turn about is fair play so I can't be that mad, but that was the fight I wanted to see the most and we are essentially back at square 0.

Oh well, will have to find another fight to really look forward to one will come up though.

[Barcham]

Why didnt Main Events just go and WIN the purse bid???

Because chances are that they would have lost.

But GYM is hardly a large, rich promoter and really could not outbid them on their own. They are a small Montreal operation. What ME should have done was do the bid and then if they lost claim foul and ask for the source of the backing for GYM's bid. If it turns out to be Haymon, they have him dead to rights.

[Cuban Linx]

If you dont get it its because you do not want to.

A year and a half ago, Stevenson chose the security of Haymon paychecks instead of risking it against Kovalev.

Today, Kovalev is choosing the security of HBO paychecks instead of risking it against Stevenson.

I think this is the most fair minded way of putting it.

However, if you blamed Stevenson for his actions, now you have to let Kovalev have it.

Totally different situations....

Adonis was offered an extension to face Kovalev on HBO. Which means win or lose, he was still going to be guaranteed fights down the line and he declined. It wasn't a one fight type of deal, where he faces Kovalev and then becomes a free agent.

In this situation, because Kovalev had completed his contract with HBO and became a free agent, Kovalev chose the security of HBO then fighting for a one fight deal with Adonis. Obviously he wasn't going to sign with Haymon because Duva and Haymon don't like each other and he wasn't offered a long term contract with Haymon. Which was just a one fight deal.

Now you might ask why doesn't Kovalev just take the one fight deal with Adonis and then afterwards signs with HBO? Because that's a horrible idea for several reasons.

Of course if he beats Adonis his stock would go up and there's a good chance he would beat Adonis. But there's also other scenario's what if he doesn't knock him out and the fight goes to a scorecard and he gets robbed? What if he gets DQ'd controversially? What If sustains a cut from an elbow? Or breaks something in the ring? What if the ref stops it early? These would result in a loss and his stock would drop and then there's no reason for HBO to pick him up or, if they do pick him up, offer him more money. There's a lot of risk involved in these one fight type of deals that's probably why a lot of fighters would decline in his situation.

I imagine Stevenson would face similar circumstances if he were to lose to Kovalev now. Haymon might not have any more use for him, or offer him less money. Who knows?

But what I'm saying is at the time, 1.5 years ago, Adonis turned down an HBO extension for Kovalev and several more fights down the line. It was a lot easier to make back then it ever will be now.

[King_]

That is Bull**** but no surprise coming from you, the fight is bigger now than it was in 2013 when neither fighter was as known as they are now so how does that even make sense?

Both fighters were known well enough. Stop trying to justify Adonis' shameful duck!


Kovalev isn't ducking Adonis!!! Kathy duva is just ruining his opportunity for greatness! You definitely should know better

[King_]

Totally different situations....

Adonis was offered an extension to face Kovalev on HBO. Which means win or lose, he was still going to be guaranteed fights down the line and he declined. It wasn't a one fight type of deal, where he faces Kovalev and then becomes a free agent.

In this situation, because Kovalev had completed his contract with HBO and became a free agent, Kovalev chose the security of HBO then fighting for a one fight deal with Adonis. Obviously he wasn't going to sign with Haymon because Duva and Haymon don't like each other and he wasn't offered a long term contract with Haymon. Which was just a one fight deal.

Now you might ask why doesn't Kovalev just take the one fight deal with Adonis and then afterwards signs with HBO? Because that's a horrible idea for several reasons.

Of course if he beats Adonis his stock would go up and there's a good chance he would beat Adonis. But there's also other scenario's what if he doesn't knock him out and the fight goes to a scorecard and he gets robbed? What if he gets DQ'd controversially? What If sustains a cut from an elbow? Or breaks something in the ring? What if the ref stops it early? These would result in a loss and his stock would drop and then there's no reason for HBO to pick him up or, if they do pick him up, offer him more money. There's a lot of risk involved in these one fight type of deals that's probably why a lot of fighters would decline in his situation.

I imagine Stevenson would face similar circumstances if he were to lose to Kovalev now. Haymon might not have any more use for him, or offer him less money. Who knows?

But what I'm saying is at the time, 1.5 years ago, Adonis turned down an HBO extension for Kovalev and several more fights down the line. It was a lot easier to make back then it ever will be now.

This is basically what I've been trying to say. My point exactly.

[Barcham]

U can't outbid Haymon. He is the richest man in boxing and one of the richest men in the world

Hardly one of the richest men in the world. Not even close. After the May-Pac fight, both of the fighters will be worth more than he is. according to various sources, Haymon is worth around $15 Million.

http://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-athletes/richest-boxers/al-haymon-net-worth/

So Kov had to sign the HBO contract or is this on Duva?

No, he didn't have to sign the contract, he chose to sign the contract. Most likely at the advice of his promoter, manager and other associates and his own sense of loyalty.

[daggum]

this makes sense because obviously kovalev isn't allowed to fight on pbc but if you want stevenson to come to hbo you should offer him 60/40. its not stevenson's fault you stuck yourself on hbo.

[Fetta]

Totally different situations....

Adonis was offered an extension to face Kovalev on HBO. Which means win or lose, he was still going to be guaranteed fights down the line and he declined. It wasn't a one fight type of deal, where he faces Kovalev and then becomes a free agent.

In this situation, because Kovalev had completed his contract with HBO and became a free agent, Kovalev chose the security of HBO then fighting for a one fight deal with Adonis. Obviously he wasn't going to sign with Haymon because Duva and Haymon don't like each other and he wasn't offered a long term contract with Haymon. Which was just a one fight deal.

Now you might ask why doesn't Kovalev just take the one fight deal with Adonis and then afterwards signs with HBO? Because that's a horrible idea for several reasons.

Of course if he beats Adonis his stock would go up and there's a good chance he would beat Adonis. But there's also other scenario's what if he doesn't knock him out and the fight goes to a scorecard and he gets robbed? What if he gets DQ'd controversially? What If sustains a cut from an elbow? Or breaks something in the ring? What if the ref stops it early? These would result in a loss and his stock would drop and then there's no reason for HBO to pick him up or, if they do pick him up, offer him more money. There's a lot of risk involved in these one fight type of deals that's probably why a lot of fighters would decline in his situation.

I imagine Stevenson would face similar circumstances if he were to lose to Kovalev now. Haymon might not have any more use for him, or offer him less money. Who knows?

But what I'm saying is at the time, 1.5 years ago, Adonis turned down an HBO extension for Kovalev and several more fights down the line. It was a lot easier to make back then it ever will be now.

So because Stevenson took the more money with Showtime he DUCKED but because Kov took the more money with HBO he didnt?

Got it!

Its a DUCK.

[Fetta]

No, he didn't have to sign the contract, he chose to sign the contract. Most likely at the advice of his promoter, manager and other associates and his own sense of loyalty.

Similar to Stevenson CHOOSING to sign with Showtime on the advice of his advisor. Isnt that right?