Was Cotto weight drained when he fought Pacquiao?

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Yes he was and thats the reason Manny refused twice to fight him without a CW , even after beating the guy with a CW Manny refused point blank to fight him again without another CW , same man isnt it , not to Manny its not .

MARK "TOO SHARP" JOHNSON ON MAYWEATHER VS. PACQUIAO:

I think the fight is going to be interesting for the first 3 or 4 rounds because Manny is going to come out on fire. Floyd is a guy that is going to want to set traps and find out what he need to do within the first 2 or 3 rounds. I think from rounds 4 on up, I think Floyd may shut him out," stated Hall of Fame two-division former world champion Mark "Too Sharp" Johnson, who shared his thoughts on how the highly-anticipated May 2 mega-fight between Floyd Mayweather and Manny Pacquiao will play out.

I looked at Manny Pacquiao and I see that he's done like Roy Jones and Aaron Pryor. All three of them do the same thing. They do everything wrong in boxing, but they were so fast that they get away with it. As time starts slowing down, you see what happened to Aaron Pryor, you see what happened to Roy Jones, and you see what's happening to Pacquiao. I think Floyd is going to be too big, a lot of good defense, and I just don't think Pacquiao is going to be able to deal with it.

So what I had to tell people is this. What about when Pacquiao fought Cotto? What about when Pacquiao fought De La Hoya? He looked way better than when Floyd fought those two guys? I had to break it down to them that Pacquiao fought those guys at 147, a weight class that killed Cotto to make and a weight class that Oscar De La Hoya hadn't made in 10 years. So if you don't know boxing, they pulled the wool over your eyes with a name. You think it's a good fight because of the name. Floyd fought those guys at 154 pounds, their best weight. Floyd fought Cotto and Oscar at 154, their best weight. They didn't have to lose weight, they didn't have to kill themselves. So I like Floyd in the fight by decision. I don't think it's going to be a stoppage.

[HeroBando]

Yes he was and thats the reason Manny refused twice to fight him without a CW , even after beating the guy with a CW Manny refused point blank to fight him again without another CW , same man isnt it , not to Manny its not .

MARK "TOO SHARP" JOHNSON ON MAYWEATHER VS. PACQUIAO:

I think the fight is going to be interesting for the first 3 or 4 rounds because Manny is going to come out on fire. Floyd is a guy that is going to want to set traps and find out what he need to do within the first 2 or 3 rounds. I think from rounds 4 on up, I think Floyd may shut him out," stated Hall of Fame two-division former world champion Mark "Too Sharp" Johnson, who shared his thoughts on how the highly-anticipated May 2 mega-fight between Floyd Mayweather and Manny Pacquiao will play out.

I looked at Manny Pacquiao and I see that he's done like Roy Jones and Aaron Pryor. All three of them do the same thing. They do everything wrong in boxing, but they were so fast that they get away with it. As time starts slowing down, you see what happened to Aaron Pryor, you see what happened to Roy Jones, and you see what's happening to Pacquiao. I think Floyd is going to be too big, a lot of good defense, and I just don't think Pacquiao is going to be able to deal with it.

So what I had to tell people is this. What about when Pacquiao fought Cotto? What about when Pacquiao fought De La Hoya? He looked way better than when Floyd fought those two guys? I had to break it down to them that Pacquiao fought those guys at 147, a weight class that killed Cotto to make and a weight class that Oscar De La Hoya hadn't made in 10 years. So if you don't know boxing, they pulled the wool over your eyes with a name. You think it's a good fight because of the name. Floyd fought those guys at 154 pounds, their best weight. Floyd fought Cotto and Oscar at 154, their best weight. They didn't have to lose weight, they didn't have to kill themselves. So I like Floyd in the fight by decision. I don't think it's going to be a stoppage.

This idiot again. PAC was happy to rematch Cotto at 147 which is not a CW, and 150 which was what Cotto requested

[Dindu_Nuffin]

No, he came in voluntarily at 146 against Clottey - which was in June 2009 - just five months prior to Pac fight.


Moreover, despite the crazy claims of some Mayweather nuthuggers, there was no "rehydration clause," wherein Cotto was not allowed to enter the ring past a certain weight.

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This idiot again. PAC was happy to rematch Cotto at 147 which is not a CW, and 150 which was what Cotto requested

Cotto held a 154 title , Manny came out and called him out , Cotto said no problems no CW and Manny said no fight and tried to make another CW .

Was happy to go at 147 while Cotto held a 154 title , why did he refuse 147 for the 147 title that Cotto held , he just fought Oscar at 147 , but Cotto must be 145 .

Manny has been the biggest manipulator of weight off any champion in the history of the sport .

Guess what this fight is not a CW and Floyd wont be weakened and is not coming from JWW , you all will see how that works out on May 2nd , if you are right Manny should kill Floyd if Im right it will be Floyd doing the dominating .

[HeroBando]

Cotto held a 154 title , Manny came out and called him out , Cotto said no problems no CW and Manny said no fight and tried to make another CW .

Was happy to go at 147 while Cotto held a 154 title , why did he refuse 147 for the 147 title that Cotto held , he just fought Oscar at 147 , but Cotto must be 145 .

Manny has been the biggest manipulator of weight off any champion in the history of the sport .

Guess what this fight is not a CW and Floyd wont be weakened and is not coming from JWW , you all will see how that works out on May 2nd , if you are right Manny should kill Floyd if Im right it will be Floyd doing the dominating .

You have it all wrong idiot. Cotto requested 150, like he did from Marg for the rematch. PAC wanted a non CW of 147 at first, as he said after Marg, but eventually agreed to 150, after Cotto had already lost his belt. You're useless

[them_apples]

Looking at Cotto's boxrec, he never fought above welterweight when he met Pacman.

people forget he weighed in at 146 in the fight prior, on his own accord at 147.

Cotto looked faster and sharper at 147, I'd say he couldn't take as good of a shot though, might have been the caliber of opponent as well, haven't seen him get tagged on the chin clean above 147.

[them_apples]

Cotto held a 154 title , Manny came out and called him out , Cotto said no problems no CW and Manny said no fight and tried to make another CW .

Was happy to go at 147 while Cotto held a 154 title , why did he refuse 147 for the 147 title that Cotto held , he just fought Oscar at 147 , but Cotto must be 145 .

Manny has been the biggest manipulator of weight off any champion in the history of the sport .

Guess what this fight is not a CW and Floyd wont be weakened and is not coming from JWW , you all will see how that works out on May 2nd , if you are right Manny should kill Floyd if Im right it will be Floyd doing the dominating .

nothing tops floyds CW with lightweight Marquez, and didn't even bother to make weight, couldn't stop him or even hurt him. at least Manny was still the smaller dude vs cotto.

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In my opinion, no. I was at the weigh-in for Cotto-Clottey when he came in at 146 I believe and he was perfectly fine. Clottey, on the other hand, hopped off the scale and began downing bottle after bottle of Pedialyte. I don't think the extra pound against Pacquiao pushed Miguel over the edge. This wasn't a De La Hoya or Margarito situation and to say Cotto was drained really takes away from a simply spectacular win by Pacquiao. Arguably his best IMO. Cotto had other issues entering the bout (no trainer, and badly shaken confidence) which I think hampered him but weight draining wasn't one of them and none of those things should take away from Manny demolishing a prime, future HOF'er.

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In my opinion, no. I was at the weigh-in for Cotto-Clottey when he came in at 146 I believe and he was perfectly fine. Clottey, on the other hand, hopped off the scale and began downing bottle after bottle of Pedialyte. I don't think the extra pound against Pacquiao pushed Miguel over the edge. This wasn't a De La Hoya or Margarito situation and to say Cotto was drained really takes away from a simply spectacular win by Pacquiao. Arguably his best IMO. Cotto had other issues entering the bout (no trainer, and badly shaken confidence) which I think hampered him but weight draining wasn't one of them and none of those things should take away from Manny demolishing a prime, future HOF'er.

Agree with what you saying as far weakening Cotto not being the same as Oscar , it wasnt Oscar he was way over the edge into the abiss , Cotto was just under the edge not far from Dawson vs Ward , but with the setbacks you mention and the CW it all added up to what it did an ass kicking .
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Making 146 earlier makes no difference to how he made it later , a pound lower can kill you , With Manny his abrupt loss of big explosive wins I dont buy the " he found God " , " cramps " , lost killer instinct or Peds , Manny beat up weight drained or shot fighters in devastating fashion , then he avoided WWS and has fought 5 JWWS in a row since being KOed and he cant hurt them , its not hype and its not coincidence , its weight and made to order opponents , May 2nd will show this aint a JWW or a drained WW .

nothing tops floyds CW with lightweight Marquez, and didn't even bother to make weight, couldn't stop him or even hurt him. at least Manny was still the smaller dude vs cotto.

Its not about topping anything , its about Mannys best wins were against CW fighters , and he challenged Cotto for 154 title and refused to fight him without another CW , is what it is .

[Cinci Champ]

The thing with catch weights is that they are built in excuses. Do I like catch weights? No. But BOTH fighters have to agree to it. With all that said, I don't think Cotto was drained at all. He looked in excellent shape at the weigh in and even had his moments in the fight

while i agree its pretty obvious when a fighter does it strictly to gain an advantage and some doing it very often