Was Cotto weight drained when he fought Pacquiao?

[paulf]

I am against the idea of discussing if a fighter was drained or not. It's completely irrelevant. No one made him take the fight or agree to the weight. The guy signed up to fight at the weight and made the weight. Almost all fighters have to cut to some degree or another to make weight for a fight, but only when they lose do we talk about it possibly affecting them or being somehow unfair. I especially see this logic applied be guys only when its to the fighters they like... drives me fucking nuts.

Brandon Rios was weight drained against Murray and Alvarado, and he still kicked their fucking asses, man.

[ADP02]

I am against the idea of discussing if a fighter was drained or not. It's completely irrelevant. No one made him take the fight or agree to the weight. The guy signed up to fight at the weight and made the weight. Almost all fighters have to cut to some degree or another to make weight for a fight, but only when they lose do we talk about it possibly affecting them or being somehow unfair. I especially see this logic applied be guys only when its to the fighters they like... drives me fucking nuts.

Brandon Rios was weight drained against Murray and Alvarado, and he still kicked their fucking asses, man.

While agree with what you are getting at but the issue that sometimes happens is that the B-side has to make concessions and feels like he has no choice. That is, the A-side saying take it or I move on to the next sucker that will give in.

I want to see the best of both fighters.

Where I agree with you is when both sides mutually agree with certain conditions that may backfire on one of them. They agreed so tough bananas. So in these situations, I am a fan and rather see a fight than no fight. So if fighters agree to a CW or whatever the issue may be, no problem.

[Doctor_Tenma]

That was the main reason why I didn't give Cotto much of a chance in that fight.

Cotto's approach entirely was nothing less than ******, I understand that he didn't possess the tools to win regardless but he didn't help himself. His body attack was too one dimensional, same repetitive left hook which Pacquiao successfully guarded against, on top of that he never angled himself in a way in which he could have targeted the mid section with the left hook. Cotto's right hand was never purposeful, I understand not being able to target the head but the body was available when Pacquiao was cornered, not even a solid jab to the body either.

1:50 still kills me, that's almost embarrassing



Then again that's what separates the very good from the great.

[Ahmed_Ismail]

No he wasn't physically drained, but I think mentally he wasn't the same Cotto cuz he was coming off a humiliating loss to Margarito where he got cut up and later a knock out drag out with B- level Clottey, he was very uncertain of himself coming into the fight. That's just my opinion, I think Cotto should've taken a long break after the Margarito fight then come back and beat some B level guy then get a rematch with Margarito to regain that confidence back before he fought Pacquiao, I think the Pacquiao fight was too soon.
The real question here should be: was Pacquiao using PEDs at that time? is this how he got his ear drum busted against Cotto and didn't even flinch and just kept walking through the punches of the much bigger stronger Cotto? this is the important question especially cuz this is the year when Pacquiao refused to take the test!

[Doctor_Tenma]

my gameplan would have been use his right as a jab with his left ****ed to throw when pac comes.

he was using his power hand for jabbing. which was a waste especially since pac was going over it tagging him.

he was trading jabs with pacs hooks and lefts.

Wrong type of jab and without a right hand to add to it, all it did was make him more vulnerable. Stepping in with the jab is a beautiful thing but that shit got Cotto killed.

[Lords]

Yeah, Cotto was without a doubt in the best shape he had EVER been in heading into that fight. He even stated as such when interviewed. He thought that there was no way that Pac could beat him.

Best shape he had EVER been in? Thanks for this laugh. He was a drained toothpick in this fight and money made him take it at that weight when he should have passed. Theres an article where Manny states weight played a big part in the fight too.

[Bravado]

Cotto has always had an issue with people who put constant pressure on him and never let up. The weight might've factored in, but the pressure is what ****ed him up. Not to mention he had the wrong gameplan facing manny because I guess he felt he could bully him or be too strong.

[Buckfever]

Not weight drained just weakened. And that's why Manny wouldn't do 154 with him.