What has Stevenson gained thus far by signing with Haymon?

[Eff Pandas]

So what was the upside to jumping ship and signing with Haymon?

More people seeing him on national tv, larger purses for lower threat level opposition which means he'll make way more when/if Sergey or another big fight pops off at some point.

I think its still a unknown if PBC will work with bigger name guys outside the Haymon advised fighters that it seems we are currently getting. I think his roster is vast, but eventually it'll need to expand or he'll need to work with non-advised guys. I know people like to say cuz this happened in the past that that trend will continue, but I think Al's strategy while under GBP was different than what his strategy will be under PBC.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

I don't know what your source is to support that statement Dunn. Kovalev was reported to earn more than $1 million for the Hopkins fight on this very site.

http://www.boxingscene.com/kovalev-w...2-years--83935

Dunn loves to swindle people with propaganda

Glad you think that way, makes me feel great. If it was so easy I should have been easy to take apart, and Dirk is a lot sharper than you and he can't do it.

Not trying to "take you apart" pal. We obviously just disagree on the issue.

Yes I did. Did you see where after he paid all his fees, taxes etc that he was left with about a quarter of that?

http://www.boxingscene.com/pascal-im-glad-give-kovalev-real-payday--87800

I should have posted his take from the Bernard fight and not his purse-my mistake.

Yeah....like that was a "mistake"

You don't fool anyone.

[The Gambler1981]

It wasn't an investment though. And like I said, Stevenson's plan hasn't gone the way he wanted it to. Refer to my previous post. He turned down the Kovalev fight. He ****ed up his planned option against Hopkins and then he managed to mess up a fight with Pascal too. He has lost potential earnings right there.

I don't know what it's worth now but I do know that Stevenson won't be getting the lion's share of the purse any more. Will he swallow his pride and accept that or feel he's entitled to more?

Plans in boxing rarely go smoothly, he has not taken a huge hit in anything so everything is pretty much fine with him. You aren't wrong that he has been bull****ting but all that gets solved in one move.

Kovalev was willing to work cheaper than Stevenson so he got those fights, fair play to him but the fact that he had to cut his own throat for those moves in hoping they worked out is a gamble. As is the case with gambles if you wint hem they tend to pay off big.

Stevenson will get his share and it will be bigger than he would have gotten more money previously, now Kovalev might make more total than him but that would be one of the costs of the plan but that only means so much if you are also getting a career high payday.

Could Stevenson have done better sure, could he have done better for equal risk and end up in a similar position probably not.

[junior gong]

Glad you think that way, makes me feel great. If it was so easy I should have been easy to take apart, and Dirk is a lot sharper than you and he can't do it.

You should visit the opticians then. You took yourself apart when you tried to advocate ducking. Dirk and I just pointed out what is completely obvious to anyone that doesnt have their proboscus wedged inside Al Haymon or Floyd's arsehole.

[The Gambler1981]

Not trying to "take you apart" pal. We obviously just disagree on the issue.

No I get that and our conversation is perfectly fine really (pretty good for most boxingscene talk), but if my point was so poor you would be able to take me apart because you are sharp.

Junior Gong has no hope of making such a play because he is duller than safety scissors.

[The Gambler1981]

Plans in boxing rarely go smoothly, he has not taken a huge hit in anything so everything is pretty much fine with him. You aren't wrong that he has been bull****ting but all that gets solved in one move.

Kovalev was willing to work cheaper than Stevenson so he got those fights, fair play to him but the fact that he had to cut his own throat for those moves in hoping they worked out is a gamble. As is the case with gambles if you wint hem they tend to pay off big.

Stevenson will get his share and it will be bigger than he would have gotten previously, now Kovalev might make more than him but that would be one of the costs of the plan but that only means so much if you are also getting a career high payday.

Could Stevenson have done better sure, could he have done better for equal risk and end up in a similar position probably not.

I should add if he gets past Bika, because that could easily end up a trap fight for Stevenson.

[The Gambler1981]

You should visit the opticians then. You took yourself apart when you tried to advocate ducking. Dirk and I just pointed out what is completely obvious to anyone that doesnt have their proboscus wedged inside Al Haymon or Floyd's arsehole.

WTF is an optician?

An optometrist? And I do every year.

[junior gong]

No I get that and our conversation is perfectly fine really (pretty good for most boxingscene talk), but if my point was so poor you would be able to take me apart because you are sharp.

Junior Gong has no hope of making such a play because he is duller than safety scissors.

I already have done, you're just a bit too dim to notice. Your whole point is ridiculous unless you are either the fighter, his dependant family, Al Haymon or anyone else with a financial stake. The last thing boxing needs is so-called fans like you who are more interested in the fighters lifestyles and bank balances than they are the integrity of the sport or seeing the best fight the best.

[The Big Dunn]

The only positive for him is that he gets overpaid to fight bums. His income is actually taking a hit since he's turning down his highest paydays left right and centre.

The proposed paydays for Bhop/Pascal would've been bigger than the fights he took because they were part of the exclusive Showtime deal, something he didn't have before Haymon. Had he fought BHop and Pascal without the exclusive showtime deal he wouldn't have made as much.

That exclusive deal is the reason he got paid more for crap fights than he would have for the Kov fight on HBO. In other threads you have said you do not have a problem with taking more lucrative fights over the best fight.

It seems clear its been a good move economically for Adonis.

[junior gong]

WTF is an optician?

An optometrist? And I do every year.

Go see a different one then.