What has Stevenson gained thus far by signing with Haymon?

[SUBZER0ED]

Stevenson has gained scorn and ridicule from true boxing fans the world over. From casual fans and nut-huggers, he has gained...empathy and sympathy.

[Canelo Phresh]

Decent paydays for fighting bums.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Right now that fight is as ripe as it is ever going to get. If Steveson gets a fantastic KO against Bika who is a very tough dude it is going to be the biggest that match up is going to get.

Some ppl here don't let fights build up.

I don't know how much you think the fight is worth now compared to then. It's not Mayweather-Pacquaio. How long do you accept "building a fight"? When they fought on the same card a couple of years ago - that was designed to build the fight. It could always in theory become bigger. So why not have both of them KO some bums until 2016 or 2017 when it will really be at it's apex!

Plus, like I keep saying, Kovalev and Duva are going to be coming from a much stronger position now that they've actually put work in. In the first round of negotiations, they were willing to take the short end of the money. Now....not so much.

As for Stevenson, his stock has dropped after that ****ty display against Fonfara and the fact that no one is watching him fight.

[The Gambler1981]

Well I bloody well do! Thats why I'm not grateful that we are getting Pac-May now as much as I am pissed that we didnt get it when it really mattered to us, not the fighters bank balances. I'm not feeling sorry for millionaires or being understanding about them being in the business of entertaining us and trying to reach the pinnacle of the sport we love, but without actually doing it.

We established a long time ago, I do not care what you think. I don't like you and I don't think you have a single clue what you are talking about if that is how you feel 4 decades into the sport.

I feel sorry for you~

[The Gambler1981]

I don't know how much you think the fight is worth now compared to then. It's not Mayweather-Pacquaio. How long do you accept "building a fight"? It could always in theory become bigger. So why not have both of them KO some bums until 2016 or 2017 when it will really be at it's apex!

Plus, like I keep saying, Kovalev and Duva are going to be coming from a much stronger position now that they've actually put work in. In the first round of negotiations, they were willing to take the short end of the money. Now....not so much.

As for Stevenson, his stock has dropped after that ****ty display against Fonfara and the fact that no one is watching him fight.

How much was it worth back then? It wasn't worth more than 2 in my opinion.

It could be pushing 5, so is being 150% more valuable a worthwhile investment in your eyes?

[SUBZER0ED]

No it's not the benchmark. It's simply an answer to the TS question. Kov got that After earning about 150k for the BHop fight. The Kov payday wasn't going to be any bigger than what he got for the showtime fights he's had.

I believe Chavez is now on Haymon's roster. He is fighting fonfara who Stevenson defeated. I would think he'd make a fight with Stevenson before he would either of them. Besides, Froch is acting now.

Why would I be crossing my fingers? You've already stated he gets huge paydays for easy wins. He already got more than he would've for Kov fight twice.

SO its been great for his income, bad in every other way.

I don't know what your source is to support that statement Dunn. Kovalev was reported to earn more than $1 million for the Hopkins fight on this very site.

http://www.boxingscene.com/kovalev-went-from-5k-purse-1million-plus-2-years--83935

[junior gong]

We established a long time ago, I do not care what you think. I don't like you and I don't think you have a single clue what you are talking about if that is how you feel 4 decades into the sport.

I feel sorry for you~

Sorry, but that floydy crap wont work with me. You are trying to make a frankly ridiculous point here and making a piss poor job of it. Your motivation here is clear, you're a Haymon/TMT fanboy and thats that.

[The Gambler1981]

Sorry, but that floydy crap wont work with me. You are trying to make a frankly ridiculous point here and making a piss poor job of it. Your motivation here is clear, you're a Haymon/TMT fanboy and thats that.

Glad you think that way, makes me feel great. If it was so easy I should have been easy to take apart, and Dirk is a lot sharper than you and he can't do it.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

How much was it worth back then? It wasn't worth more than 2 in my opinion.

It could be pushing 5, so is being 150% more valuable a worthwhile investment in your eyes?

It wasn't an investment though. And like I said, Stevenson's plan hasn't gone the way he wanted it to. Refer to my previous post. He turned down the Kovalev fight. He ****ed up his planned option against Hopkins and then he managed to mess up a fight with Pascal too. He has lost potential earnings right there.

I don't know what it's worth now but I do know that Stevenson won't be getting the lion's share of the purse any more. Will he swallow his pride and accept that or feel he's entitled to more?

[The Big Dunn]

I don't know what your source is to support that statement Dunn. Kovalev was reported to earn more than $1 million for the Hopkins fight on this very site.

http://www.boxingscene.com/kovalev-w...2-years--83935

Yes I did. Did you see where after he paid all his fees, taxes etc that he was left with about a quarter of that?

http://www.boxingscene.com/pascal-im-glad-give-kovalev-real-payday--87800

I should have posted his take from the Bernard fight and not his purse-my mistake.