Did the Pac-Cotto fight arouse your su****ion?

[Evol]

You are not making sense. why would Floyd fans make those threads. JMM's actions are not su****ious. that's the point. whenever any fighter doesn't test, NSB has threads about him cheating etc. etc. why would you expect Manny to be exempt from that?

Again, you and others spent 3 years killing Floyd fans for their reasoning and then employed the same reasoning because you were hurt that Manny lost by KO. You are like people who complain about people in power then do the same thing when you are in power.

your doing the same thing ADOP2 is, trying to create wiggle room. Manny did avoid testing at all costs, he walked away from the fight. you want to give him credit for his offer. tha t would be like giving Floyd credit for wanting the fight without making the deal-would you ever do that?

The only reason you have JMM as dirty is because Manny lost. Had Manny won, you would never say anything.

and the only reason why u think manny is dirty is because of ur god. before floyd sr and jr said anything where was all this su****ious at? be ur own man dunn and be a leader dont be a follower LOL!

[mrpizza-nd_beer]

I'm in the grey on this one. Mosley landed something like 50% of his power punches on Cotto if I recall and he didn't drop Cotto once. Manny pretty much hurt Cotto right out the gate. Mosley was known as the hardest puncher at 147 and Manny who is coming up in weight should not carry the same power he had at the lower weights the way he did. I don't know if he was on peds but I wouldn't be shocked if he was.

Anyone who's followed Pac pre Ledwaba knew his reputation as someone packing a punch of middleweight according to his sparmates. He hasn't KO'd anyone at welter yet has he? Cotto was a stoppage, so was Oscar. So how did PEDS help him?

[sugarsmosley]

Pac has been roiding since he was a small child, this is factual information that pac-stans are hiding away from as usual. #FACTSONLY

[The Big Dunn]

well, i mean isnt that the same reason why the floyd fans believe manny is on peds? same logic different situation.

"oh look after floyd called him out on it, he's not knocking anyone out anymore because he stopped using peds"

if u have a problem with pac fans believing that jmm is using peds because he has never knock manny down or out prior to the 4th meeting then u should call the floyd fans out too on saying manny hasnt knock anyone out lately because he stopped using peds.

Nce try and pivot-if you use the argument that JMM didn't ko Manny before then it opens anyone up to use the same argument regarding Manny and Morales.

That's the problem with desperately making things up when you are hurt and emotional-you tend to forget the situations where that logic can be equally applied.

It's dumb to use logic when there are undeniable facts that point to steroid use such as teen acne, out and proud ped specialist, hulking body, explosive one punch knockout power late in his career, all of them not present pre-heredia. nothing of those sorts were ever reported about Manny. You say huge head? That's freaking dumb if you believe it, teen manny's head was super huge as well as floyd's jail head. I'm not trying to convince you Im showing how dumb you sound.

You are arguing points I never made, which is the usual tactic of the desperate.

They weren't reported about JMM, those things were posted by disgruntled Manny fans upset over losing.

[The Big Dunn]

and the only reason why u think manny is dirty is because of ur god. before floyd sr and jr said anything where was all this su****ious at? be ur own man dunn and be a leader dont be a follower LOL!

Yet you know I don't think Manny is dirty because of all our debates. yet you throw it out here because you can't logically counter anything I said.

Calling Floyd my god and lying about what you know I don't believe only makes my point more valid-Manny fans react out of hurt feelings and anger w\and when they do so, they cease thinking logically and allow themselves to post anything, no matter how ******ed or untrue.

My point remains-Cotto fight, no-actions, yes they raised su****ions.

[Evol]

Nce try and pivot-if you use the argument that JMM didn't ko Manny before then it opens anyone up to use the same argument regarding Manny and Morales.

That's the problem with desperately making things up when you are hurt and emotional-you tend to forget the situations where that logic can be equally applied.



You are arguing points I never made, which is the usual tactic of the desperate.

They weren't reported about JMM, those things were posted by disgruntled Manny fans upset over losing.

and thats the same reason why the floyd fans think manny is using peds, because he hasnt knocked anyone out since floyd called him out! thats why the pac fans is doing the same thing! jmm hasnt knocked manny down or out until the 4th fight so he has to be juicing! same logic dunn!! its just funny how u call one group out but ignored the other.

[Beercules]

Pac has been roiding since he was a small child, this is factual information that pac-stans are hiding away from as usual. #FACTSONLY

Selling them PED doughnuts with Buboy since they were like 8. Shame on you Pac ****ing bum

[sugarsmosley]

i think floyd and manny are both amazing.


come at me guys

[Evol]

Yet you know I don't think Manny is dirty because of all our debates. yet you throw it out here because you can't logically counter anything I said.

Calling Floyd my god and lying about what you know I don't believe only makes my point more valid-Manny fans react out of hurt feelings and anger w\and when they do so, they cease thinking logically and allow themselves to post anything, no matter how ******ed or untrue.

My point remains-Cotto fight, no-actions, yes they raised su****ions.

so whats this?

No. I thought the outcome had more to do with Manny being better than Cotto and cotto having to come in at 145.

The refusing to test, asking to know when the cutoff was, and the flip flop before the JMM fight regarding testing aroused far more su****ious IMO.

[sugarsmosley]

Selling them PED doughnuts with Buboy since they were like 8. Shame on you Pac ****ing bum

Keep on slapping them pac-stans down bro!! They can't handle it!!

I've never seen manny fight as a kid in the phillipines, but yes I do believe he was roiding in the 1990's.