Did the Pac-Cotto fight arouse your su****ion?

[The Big Dunn]

and thats the same reason why the floyd fans think manny is using peds, because he hasnt knocked anyone out since floyd called him out! thats why the pac fans is doing the same thing! jmm hasnt knocked manny down or out until the 4th fight so he has to be juicing! same logic dunn!! its just funny how u call one group out but ignored the other.

No, that's what Manny fans, including you, have posted as one of the reasons you suspect JMM when asked the question here on NSB. That's why I asked about Morales/Manny, because the same argument could be made. what Floyd fans may think has no bearing other than you trying to find a justification for hypocricy.

That is also why I ask posters like ADOP2 and GODFR33 if Manny ko's JMM in a 5th fight or Bradley in a 3rd fight, would that be a sign he is on PED's. They never answer the question.

The notion that either of the above would be proof Manny is on PED's is absurd beyond all reality, yet some have actually posted it as valid to accuse JMM.

[The Big Dunn]

so whats this?

If you can read, you know exactly what it is-an answer to the thread question. Arousing su****ions is not the same as saying he is.

[Evol]

No, that's what Manny fans, including you, have posted as one of the reasons you suspect JMM when asked the question here on NSB. That's why I asked about Morales/Manny, because the same argument could be made. what Floyd fans may think has no bearing other than you trying to find a justification for hypocricy.

That is also why I ask posters like ADOP2 and GODFR33 if Manny ko's JMM in a 5th fight or Bradley in a 3rd fight, would that be a sign he is on PED's. They never answer the question.

The notion that either of the above would be proof Manny is on PED's is absurd beyond all reality, yet some have actually posted it as valid to accuse JMM.

because of what the floyds fans say about manny!!!

"manny is not knocking anyone out anymore after floyd called him out on because he's not using peds anymore"

"jmm is using peds because he has never knock manny down or out before"

same logic!!!

this is why i am asking u if u have a problem with one then u should have a problem with the other as well.

[Evol]

If you can read, you know exactly what it is-an answer to the thread question. Arousing su****ions is not the same as saying he is.

i didnt say u said he was. i said and thats why u "think".

[ИATAS]

Saw this outcome a mile a way. Won good money on this fight, although it was a mercy stoppage as Cotto likely would have survived to the bell if not for the ref.

I don't know how anyone could have watched the ODLH and Hatton fights and not thought Pac was going to F him up.

[bigfo0t]

Honestly, I don't think anyone at the top level is beyond su****ion.. The top PED designers always seem to be one step ahead of the testing, so most of the time testing is kind of pointless.. people probably only get caught for being careless or being cheap and not getting the latest and greatest expensive shi t.

That said, I have my su****ions, but I feel Manny has EARNED the benefit of the doubt here. A case can be made about his relentless stamina, but it didn't just suddenly appear out of nowhere, he always had that. The musculature also didn't just suddenly appear out of no where, we have seen the progression through the years little by little.. The man was malnourished for most of his life and emaciated, it isn't unreasonable to think that when he finally has access to good nutrition and training that we will gain muscle. He also has NO ties to known PED designers/dealers, unlike others who I won't mention..

Manny has earned the benefit of the doubt here IMO.

[Evol]

No, that's what Manny fans, including you, have posted as one of the reasons you suspect JMM when asked the question here on NSB. That's why I asked about Morales/Manny, because the same argument could be made. what Floyd fans may think has no bearing other than you trying to find a justification for hypocricy.

That is also why I ask posters like ADOP2 and GODFR33 if Manny ko's JMM in a 5th fight or Bradley in a 3rd fight, would that be a sign he is on PED's. They never answer the question.

The notion that either of the above would be proof Manny is on PED's is absurd beyond all reality, yet some have actually posted it as valid to accuse JMM.

funny u brought that up though and try to compare it with marquez LOL.

manny has never knock bradley down, yes, but he has HURT bradley plenty of times. where as marquez has never drop manny or even come close to actually hurting him LOL. nice try at the comparison though.

[The Big Dunn]

because of what the floyds fans say about manny!!!

"manny is not knocking anyone out anymore after floyd called him out on because he's not using peds anymore"

"jmm is using peds because he has never knock manny down or out before"

same logic!!!

this is why i am asking u if u have a problem with one then u should have a problem with the other as well.

stop the deflecting and trying to bring in Floyd fans. Its about what Manny fans said when asked why they suspect JMM and how the same can be applied to the Morales fights. That's the same logic. what you are bringing up is just a desperate attempt to shift away from what you and others posted.

i didnt say u said he was. i said and thats why u "think".

I don't think it either. again, you know this but you are just trying to take focus away from and neutralize the points I'm making by falsely characterizing me. that's nothing new.

funny u brought that up though and try to compare it with marquez LOL.

manny has never knock bradley down, yes, but he has HURT bradley plenty of times. where as marquez has never drop manny or even come close to actually hurting him LOL. nice try at the comparison though.

SO, he nevr knocked him down. If Manny were to get a KD, then is it valid to suspect PED's? of course not. It's ******ed, as ******ed as you and others using the lack of knockdowns from JMM to say he is suspect in the 4th fight.

[Strategic1]

PAC at the age of 35ish, 36,... has taken VADA in a number of his fights lately..and clearly beat world class competition in Timothy Bradley, Brandon Rios,...and yes Algieri. Timothy's resume speaks for itself.

So a younger PAC at 30, pre-Christianized Pac, beat down Cotto. ...Pacquaio crushes this type of fighter.

[Evol]

stop the deflecting and trying to bring in Floyd fans. Its about what Manny fans said when asked why they suspect JMM and how the same can be applied to the Morales fights. That's the same logic. what you are bringing up is just a desperate attempt to shift away from what you and others posted.




I don't think it either. again, you know this but you are just trying to take focus away from and neutralize the points I'm making by falsely characterizing me. that's nothing new.



SO, he nevr knocked him down. If Manny were to get a KD, then is it valid to suspect PED's? of course not. It's ******ed, as ******ed as you and others using the lack of knockdowns from JMM to say he is suspect in the 4th fight.

Of course floyd and his fans is gonna get brought up in this because this whole peds accusation with no proof started from him and his fans! Pac fans is using the same logic floyd fans used on manny!

And it's funny how u said its ******ed to think jmm is on peds because because he has never knock manny down or out prior to the 4th fight. Well isn't accusing someone of being on peds with no proof ******ed as well?