The Final Word on Wladmir Klitschko

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  • BattlingNelson
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    #31
    Originally posted by LacedUp
    I might have misunderstood your question.
    Basically its that if the great fighters of yesteryear who won the olympics where for real then those winning the olympics of today must be for real also or....?

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    • Godsfly
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      #32
      Originally posted by BattlingNelson
      Why won't you answer the question then?
      let me show you why I ignored your last qustion..........


      "i have no clue where you guys pull this none sense from. those guys were great for real (meaning the ATG's which the user was talking about) and the soviets didn't create much of a challenge if any"

      your reply to that was an off topic "Which means that the olympic Champions of today is also for real right?"

      if the olympic champion went on to have a pro career like "foremans" then yes.........also amateur boxing was almost through and through professional boxing in those days (can't really be compared to the system we run today) it's a huge difference & even that can't be compared.

      like i said. you are purposely confusing yourself in off topic rhetoric. thats why I ether thought you were trolling or just commenting for comments sake..
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        #33
        Originally posted by Godsfly
        let me show you why I ignored your last qustion..........


        "i have no clue where you guys pull this none sense from. those guys were great for real (meaning the ATG's which the user was talking about) and the soviets didn't create much of a challenge if any"

        your reply to that was an off topic "Which means that the olympic Champions of today is also for real right?"

        if the olympic champion went on to have a pro career like "foremans" then yes.........also amateur boxing was almost through and through professional boxing in those days (can't really be compared to the system we run today) it's a huge difference & even that can't be compared.

        like i said. you are purposely confusing yourself in off topic rhetoric. thats why I ether thought you were trolling or just commenting for comments sake..
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        The game is changing as the foodchain is changing geddit? So if Foreman was a great AM and pro there is a comparison there from him to Klitschko.

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        • Godsfly
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          #34
          i give up....................

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          • LacedUp
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            #35
            Originally posted by BattlingNelson
            Basically its that if the great fighters of yesteryear who won the olympics where for real then those winning the olympics of today must be for real also or....?
            Of course.

            But the argument put forward was that the American champions weren't truly champions because they couldn't fight the soviet fighters of that time.

            However, they did fight the best they had to offer in the amateurs which was very like pro fighting and they often found themselves stretched making the original point redundant.

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              #36
              Originally posted by LacedUp
              Of course.

              But the argument put forward was that the American champions weren't truly champions because they couldn't fight the soviet fighters of that time.

              However, they did fight the best they had to offer in the amateurs which was very like pro fighting and they often found themselves stretched making the original point redundant.
              Ah yes. I see that now. Maybe I was somewhat fast on the trigger there.

              Forgive me godsfly.

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              • Elroy1
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                #37
                The only time Americans met Soviet boxers was at the Olympics.

                And the record there shows rough parity with a slight advantage overall to the Eastern Bloc boxers, this despite the fact the West was more populous.

                Had boxing been a global sport back in the 20th century...

                Many of the US's past American champions, would have never even existed!

                That is a fact!

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Elroy1
                  The only time Americans met Soviet boxers was at the Olympics.

                  And the record there shows rough parity with a slight advantage overall to the Eastern Bloc boxers, this despite the fact the West was more populous.

                  Had boxing been a global sport back in the 20th century...

                  Many of the US's past American champions, would have never even existed!

                  That is a fact!

                  Which Eastern fighters beat guys like Ali, Frazier or Foreman in the Olympics? I could have sworn all of those three beat eastern guys in the Olympics so obviously what you're saying is complete bollocks.

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                  • joe strong
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                    #39
                    somewhere in the top 10. tough to compare eras because of different circumstances which have been recycled over & over. At this point I compare him to larry holmes. both great fighters but were caught in an era where elite opponents were few & far between. holmes had an impressive run & klitschko has been dominant too. I got both in my top 10. I wasn't around for the Ali era. I started watching in the late 80s when Tyson started making headlines. the only HW in my era of watching that I have ahead of him is Lennox Lewis.

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                    • Elroy1
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by joe strong
                      somewhere in the top 10. tough to compare eras because of different circumstances which have been recycled over & over. At this point I compare him to larry holmes. both great fighters but were caught in an era where elite opponents were few & far between. holmes had an impressive run & klitschko has been dominant too. I got both in my top 10. I wasn't around for the Ali era. I started watching in the late 80s when Tyson started making headlines. the only HW in my era of watching that I have ahead of him is Lennox Lewis.
                      Having Lewis ahead of him is a respectable opinion.

                      Having Ali even mentioned in the same breath like some of the shameless trolls on here is not!

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