The Final Word on Wladmir Klitschko

[Bald Shavers]

How does Wladmir rank among the all-time great heavyweights?

1. Muhammad Ali
2. Joe Louis
3. Larry Holmes
4. Jack Johnson
5. George Foreman
6. Sonny Liston
7. Jack Dempsey
8. Rocky Marciano
9. Mike Tyson (prime)
10. Joe Frazier
11. Lennox Lewis
12. Gene Tunney
13. Jersey Joe Walcott
14. Floyd Patterson
15. Evander Holyfield
16. Rid**** Bowe
17. Earnie Shavers
18. Vitali Klitschko
19. Max Baer
20. Wladmir Klischko

Why is Wladmir officially ranked so low?

He fought no one. There is no question that the heavyweight division in which he reigned was the absolute WORST in boxing history, with fighters who wouldn't even qualify as sparring partners for Ken Norton and Ingemar Johannson.

He has been much bigger than the pygmies that he has fought yet still can't look good against them.

He has zero chin.

He is slow.

Why is Wladmir very unpopular and can't even get PPV in the United States, a nation that has a very long tradition of great (Robinson, Armstrong, Leonard, Tyson, Pep, etc.) and high caliber boxing?

He is boring.

Boring in personality (like a real Frankenstein)

Boring in style (like Mayweather but at least Floyd knows how to promote himself outside the ring as a "heel")

Just basically no charisma from Wladmir

If you have any questions about Wladmir, I'll be here to answer them.

[LacedUp]

Joke list. What ranks guys like Patterson, shavers and baer over Wlad?

[Monaco Slim]

Wladimir Klitschko is #2 behind Lennox Lewis.

All these old boxers like Ali who only beat Americans were only champion because the Soviets weren't allowed to turn pro. Since they were allowed to turn pro they have taken over the sport, coincidence? Not really.

[LacedUp]

Wladimir Klitschko is #2 behind Lennox Lewis.

All these old boxers like Ali who only beat Americans were only champion because the Soviets weren't allowed to turn pro. Since they were allowed to turn pro they have taken over the sport, coincidence? Not really.

From one extreme to another.

[Bald Shavers]

Joke list. What ranks guys like Patterson, shavers and baer over Wlad?

Despite being relatively small, Patterson was able to produce great results because of his dazzling speed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Odm1uCTMq_I

Shavers has the distinction of being the strongest puncher in heavyweight history, or close to it.

Baer and Wladmir would actually be close but with Baer having killed someone with his right hand and Wladmir getting KTFO's by that South African golfer, Baer would have the edge.

[Bald Shavers]

Wladimir Klitschko is #2 behind Lennox Lewis.

All these old boxers like Ali who only beat Americans were only champion because the Soviets weren't allowed to turn pro. Since they were allowed to turn pro they have taken over the sport, coincidence? Not really.

Ali beat Soviets left and right as an amateur. The Soviet style of fighting was too basic and wouldn't translate well in the pro ranks. The Soviets practiced point scoring boxing, not real boxing.

[LacedUp]

Despite being relatively small, Patterson was able to produce great results because of his dazzling speed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Odm1uCTMq_I

Shavers has the distinction of being the strongest puncher in heavyweight history, or close to it.

Baer and Wladmir would actually be close but with Baer having killed someone with his right hand and Wladmir getting KTFO's by that South African golfer, Baer would have the edge.

Which great results? Which results compares to defending your titles 15+ times?

Yes shavers was a strong puncher. Wlad still has better KO wins than Shavers has.

[kiDynamite92]

Wladimir Klitschko is #2 behind Lennox Lewis.

All these old boxers like Ali who only beat Americans were only champion because the Soviets weren't allowed to turn pro. Since they were allowed to turn pro they have taken over the sport, coincidence? Not really.

Where were the soviets in the amateurs? Just like today America isn't producing any Olympians and hence and downfall in their standard of boxing. To top that off many great European amateurs arean't turning pro and has led to a downfall in quality from all over.

[Bald Shavers]

Which great results? Which results compares to defending your titles 15+ times?

Yes shavers was a strong puncher. Wlad still has better KO wins than Shavers has.

15 times against NFL football and NBA basketball rejects, as well as Eastern European midgets, and a cruiserweight named Haye.

[Monaco Slim]

Ali beat Soviets left and right as an amateur. The Soviet style of fighting was too basic and wouldn't translate well in the pro ranks. The Soviets practiced point scoring boxing, not real boxing.

Tell that to the Klitschko's, Golovkin and Kovalev who have all the American boxers shaking in their boots. Wilder literally waited until Vitali retired before even thinking about challenging for the title.

Wladimir has defended the title for 9 years+ in dominant fashion against people from all over the world, a true world champion.

Muhammad Ali only held it for 3 years and most of his fights were constant rematches against Americans.