The Final Word on Wladmir Klitschko

[beez721]

How does Wladmir rank among the all-time great heavyweights?

1. Muhammad Ali
2. Joe Louis
3. Larry Holmes
4. Jack Johnson
5. George Foreman
6. Sonny Liston
7. Jack Dempsey
8. Rocky Marciano
9. Mike Tyson (prime)
10. Joe Frazier
11. Lennox Lewis
12. Gene Tunney
13. Jersey Joe Walcott
14. Floyd Patterson
15. Evander Holyfield
16. Rid**** Bowe
17. Earnie Shavers
18. Vitali Klitschko
19. Max Baer
20. Wladmir Klischko

Why is Wladmir officially ranked so low?

He fought no one. There is no question that the heavyweight division in which he reigned was the absolute WORST in boxing history, with fighters who wouldn't even qualify as sparring partners for Ken Norton and Ingemar Johannson.

He has been much bigger than the pygmies that he has fought yet still can't look good against them.

He has zero chin.

He is slow.

Why is Wladmir very unpopular and can't even get PPV in the United States, a nation that has a very long tradition of great (Robinson, Armstrong, Leonard, Tyson, Pep, etc.) and high caliber boxing?

He is boring.

Boring in personality (like a real Frankenstein)

Boring in style (like Mayweather but at least Floyd knows how to promote himself outside the ring as a "heel")

Just basically no charisma from Wladmir

If you have any questions about Wladmir, I'll be here to answer them.

wlad is slow? lol,,,,think u need to watch more of his fights

[Simurgh]

Wlad is in top5 on my list.

Ali, Louis, Foreman have advantage.. He is somewhere there with Lennox.

[Godsfly]

Wladimir Klitschko is #2 behind Lennox Lewis.

All these old boxers like Ali who only beat Americans were only champion because the Soviets weren't allowed to turn pro. Since they were allowed to turn pro they have taken over the sport, coincidence? Not really.

i don't understand this....theres something called "amateur boxing" and the soviets truly indeed competed in amateur boxing (you can't deny and hide that like you do in the pros no matter how much you b*tch) the greats ran through the soviets even in their boring point and score like style.

from fraizer to ali to foreman. foreman actually almost killed 6'6 soviet Chepulis..........look at what A 6'0 fraizer did to 6'8 soveit champ Yemelyanov (knocked him completely out)


i have no clue where you guys pull this none sense from. those guys were great for real and the soviets didn't create much of a challenge if any.........

[BattlingNelson]

i don't understand this....theres something called "amateur boxing" and the soviets truly indeed competed in amateur boxing (you can't deny and hide that like you do in the pros no matter how much you b*tch) the greats ran through the soviets even in their boring point and score like style.

from fraizer to ali to foreman. foreman actually almost killed 6'6 soviet Chepulis..........look at what A 6'0 fraizer did to 6'8 soveit champ Yemelyanov (knocked him completely out)


i have no clue where you guys pull this none sense from. those guys were great for real and the soviets didn't create much of a challenge if any.........

Which means that the olympic Champions of today is also for real right?

[Godsfly]

confuse yourself in rhetoric all you want but the message was perfectly clear..............

[BattlingNelson]

confuse yourself in rhetoric all you want but the message was perfectly clear..............

Why won't you answer the question then?

[LacedUp]

Which means that the olympic Champions of today is also for real right?

Amateur boxing pre 75 was very very different from today.

Almost like pro fighting, except the Soviet's had the same point scoring style that many of them have today too.

[Ryn0]

Lewis and Wlad should be much higher, Frazier is a legend but Lewis achieved much more in his era than Frazier, Tyson and Liston.

Klitschko is much much better than Shavers, Baer, Bowe, Patterson, Walcott some of these guys weren't even the number 1 guys in their era! Additionally as much as I think Jack Johnson was a pioneer of boxing I don't think he belongs on any list that includes top Heavyweights because the rules of boxing were so different even from the days of Dempsey. Some of his fights were scheduled for 45 rounds, others for only 6, some for 20.

[BattlingNelson]

Amateur boxing pre 75 was very very different from today.

Almost like pro fighting, except the Soviet's had the same point scoring style that many of them have today too.

I await the reply from godsfly.

[LacedUp]

I await the reply from godsfly.

I might have misunderstood your question.