Comments Thread For: Bob Arum: There is One Guy To Blame - Floyd Mayweather!

[The_Sandman]

You are focusing on irrelevant examples to prove that Arum is avoiding the fight... Ross Greenburg would disagree... Floyd's joke of a $40 mil offer doesn't show he wants the fight... Blood testing excuse even after Manny agreed... if anything why hasn't any neutral person stated that Arum is the issue... neutral parties such as Ross Greenburg have all laid blame on Floyd just ducking the fight...

Is it just me or in every negotiations does Bob Arum pretends negotiations are so simple? The crazy thing is, even I know that negotiations aren't as simple as Bob Arum makes it seem. Every negotiations, he just seems so unrealistic about it. "Oh yeah, we agreed to everything. Blood test, money etc. We settled everything. Just like that. It's that simple." But we got Espinoza here saying something else. So obviously Arum hasn't settled everything. Let's be honest, we know however many million dollars in any situation being involved in any decision making is never that simple. Floyd may not be saying the things we want him to say and his answers may not be as definite as Arums, but maybe that's because the negotiations are still ongoing and the fight itself is not...definite.

And I don't care who you are, you don't offer 40 million dollars in any situation if you aren't serious about the fight. The 60/40 offer, me and my friends who are also Pacquiao fans agreed that was more that fair. I can't sit here and say the guy who is doing all the offering and making phone calls the one that is scared. I also do know Pacquiao isn't the one that's scared either.

[HAY-B]

Hmmm...which fighter seems to have the biggest propensity to be a deceitful liar? Ask yourselves that one....one guy fights for his impoverished country, even to the point of serving as a congressman...another buys another car, drops more money on strippers, gets another watch, beats a few broads and acts simply like a ******....he is beloved by other ******s but not decent people. So who would lie, cheat or steal to make himself look better?

I get the point that you're trying to make hinting at Manny being more honorable than Floyd. But you shot yourself in the foot when you tried to say that Manny has more integrity because he's a congressman.

There is no such thing as an honest politician anywhere in the world. Honesty and Politician go together like oil and water.

[Scipio2009]

Hmmm...which fighter seems to have the biggest propensity to be a deceitful liar? Ask yourselves that one....one guy fights for his impoverished country, even to the point of serving as a congressman...another buys another car, drops more money on strippers, gets another watch, beats a few broads and acts simply like a ******....he is beloved by other ******s but not decent people. So who would lie, cheat or steal to make himself look better?

... Pacquiao is on the record of owing his impoverished country the equivalent of $75m in taxes and penalties that were not paid, lol. It's to the point that he's honestly got people trying to argue that it's 'patriotic' for the country to give Pacquiao that money. And that's before getting into any of Pacquiao's personal shenanigans.

the hate here is hilarious.

[Spoon23]

Arum has spoken to Al Haymon directly regarding the fight terms. Arum says that they are on the same page.

http://http://espn.go.com/boxing/sto...yweather-fight .

So, Haymon discussed the terms with Arum. Pacquiao agreed to the terms. It was sent back to Floyd so they can formalize a contract. Floyd hasn't signed off on it yet.

Yup al haymon is on board. Floyd is still on ***** st.

[Beercules]

Floyd
Does
Not
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Pacquiao

[elfag]

showtime is saying there is not a contract out for signature

[sirron000]

Both of those fights were under Golden Boy Promotions which Mayweather has used for every fight... when has Mayweather co-promoted with a company besides Golden Boy?

Arum also put De La Hoya in with Trinidad..he's co-promoted with Cotto on so many fights as well...

You my friend said Haymon controlled, I was just pointing out that those was NOT Haymon controlled fights.

But you made my point when you admitted those were Golden Boy Promoted.

[Spoon23]

Is it just me or in every negotiations does Bob Arum pretends negotiations are so simple? The crazy thing is, even I know that negotiations aren't as simple as Bob Arum makes it seem. Every negotiations, he just seems so unrealistic about it. "Oh yeah, we agreed to everything. Blood test, money etc. We settled everything. Just like that. It's that simple." But we got Espinoza here saying something else. So obviously Arum hasn't settled everything. Let's be honest, we know however many million dollars in any situation being involved in any decision making is never that simple. Floyd may not be saying the things we want him to say and his answers may not be as definite as Arums, but maybe that's because the negotiations are still ongoing and the fight itself is not...definite.

And I don't care who you are, you don't offer 40 million dollars in any situation if you aren't serious about the fight. The 60/40 offer, me and my friends who are also Pacquiao fans agreed that was more that fair. I can't sit here and say the guy who is doing all the offering and making phone calls the one that is scared. I also do know Pacquiao isn't the one that's scared either.

Naaah, all it takes is for Floyd to come out and voice his side. He is getting ****d in the media. What does he do? Hide.. Silence is admittance of guilt.

Pac and arum has agreed to everything including the kitchen sink.

Now if Pac and arum is lying Floyd should come out and speak and say Pac didn't agree to gloves, didn't agree to 60/40, didn't agree to which ref and ring girls will come in the ring. Didnt agree to ring size.. Didn't agree to may 2.

My point is Pac and arum is on record they said they have agreed to all of it. All he has to do is refute it by showing evidence that no they want it 50/50! No they want cleto Reyes! No they want smaller ring! No they want this referee..

See? It's all Floyd. He can't speak coz he has nothing to say to retract the deal that was agreed upon. He can't lie coz their are big boys involved including top dog of CBS les moonves, who will back arum's statement.

Truth hurts floyd is a duck.

[MisanthropicNY]

You my friend said Haymon controlled, I was just pointing out that those was NOT Haymon controlled fights.

But you made my point when you admitted those were Golden Boy Promoted.

So your point is that Floyd needs to be under the same promoter to make a fight? Floyd isn't really ducking Pacquiao.. and he'd fight Pac if Pac weren't under Bob Arum...

That's all fine and great..but back in 2010...I thought Random-blood testing was the issue...never heard Bob Arum was the deal breaker until after Manny agreed to the blood-testing... then it was the $40 mil offer... my guess is Floyd will back off from accepting 60/40 and say that Pac has horrible PPV numbers etc. and he doesn't deserve 40%...

We'll see Floyd fight for way less money against Cotto and Pac will fight Ruslan/Maidana... Vargas will be saved for end of year in Macau...

[The_Sandman]

Naaah, all it takes is for Floyd to come out and voice his side. He is getting ****d in the media. What does he do? Hide.. Silence is admittance of guilt.

Pac and arum has agreed to everything including the kitchen sink.

Now if Pac and arum is lying Floyd should come out and speak and say Pac didn't agree to gloves, didn't agree to 60/40, didn't agree to which ref and ring girls will come in the ring. Didnt agree to ring size.. Didn't agree to may 2.

My point is Pac and arum is on record they said they have agreed to all of it. All he has to do is refute it by showing evidence that no they want it 50/50! No they want cleto Reyes! No they want smaller ring! No they want this referee..

See? It's all Floyd. He can't speak coz he has nothing to say to retract the deal that was agreed upon. He can't lie coz their are big boys involved including top dog of CBS les moonves, who will back arum's statement.

Truth hurts floyd is a duck.

If he speaks, would you believe him? Or would you say something like "OMG another excuse." He can literally sign the contract on camera, and people will say that's a fake contract or some ****.

I mean, I'm not lying over here right? Even you'd have to admit that's what people are going to say. I'm not being weird here...am I? I think that's kind of a normal response here, right?