How Great Was Oscar De La Hoya?

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  • joseph5620
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    #91
    Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali
    Im not over hyping anything...

    never said anywhere in my post that it was prime chavez or pernell.. said chavez had been beaten by movers but nobody had ever beaten him up till oscar...

    Said pernell was longtime welter champ... never said he was prime..


    What do you mean oscar runs and great fighters don't run... Have you ever seen floyd fight... how much running has he done in his career., So is floyd not a great fighter??? also seen roy run in fights before when up on the cards...

    I think your using a double standard for oscar


    plus, when did i say that shane and floyd didn't win clear decisions.. I clearly said he lost competitive fights... they were competitive, he lost...
    How is that padding resumes???? those are the facts.....

    Point is in regards to timing of the fights-
    when oscar was a young lion he fought the veteran greats i.e. chavez, pernell

    when oscar was at his peak, he fought his contemporary rivals in their prime i.e. tito, ike, shane

    when oscar was a past prime fighter he fought the young lions like floyd and manny...




    at every stage of his career he fought the best.......


    I think you need to reread my post, because your way off the mark on nearly everything you said..
    Name one fight where Floyd or Jones ran scared for four rounds the way Oscar did against Trinidad. I'll wait.
    Last edited by joseph5620; 12-21-2014, 01:16 PM.

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    • Zhang Yong Jun
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      #92
      Originally posted by joseph5620
      Name one fight where Floyd or Jones ran scared for four rounds the way Oscar did against Trinidad. I'll wait.
      **** off you black supremacist ******.

      Oscar whooped that clown Whittaker and he whooped the cheating ass Trinidad, Mayweather ran against Baldomir, Guerrero almost every fight in the last round you damn fool.

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        #93
        Originally posted by Zhang Yong Jun
        **** off you black supremacist ******.

        Oscar whooped that clown Whittaker and he whooped the cheating ass Trinidad, Mayweather ran against Baldomir, Guerrero almost every fight in the last round you damn fool.













        If you had any intelligence or boxing knowledge you would know those fights were not comparable to Oscar's gutless running against Trinidad.

        Your racist comments are typical of a ****** person who has no answers or any other way of communicating.
        Last edited by joseph5620; 12-21-2014, 01:35 PM.

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          #94
          Originally posted by Tedkidlewis
          Always been a bit of a De La Hoya fan. I've always felt he was better than the boxing public have you believe. I hold him higher than guys that got wins against him in his prime like Trinidad or Mosley.
          Anyway what are your opinions?
          He fought everyone. He fought Trinidad, Hopkins, Quartey, Vargas, Mosley

          He was really good maybe great but not sure.

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          • baya
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            #95
            Originally posted by Zhang Yong Jun
            **** off you black supremacist ******.

            Oscar whooped that clown Whittaker and he whooped the cheating ass Trinidad, Mayweather ran against Baldomir, Guerrero almost every fight in the last round you damn fool.
            another dude that can't possibly fathom that what he was doing was legal in LV and just not in NYC

            trinidad was a cheater gtfoh, slant.

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            • Zhang Yong Jun
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              #96
              Originally posted by baya
              another dude that can't possibly fathom that what he was doing was legal in LV and just not in NYC

              trinidad was a cheater gtfoh, slant.
              You deluded idiot lol you ricans are the most emotional boxing fans of them all.

              Cotto is an overrated ok but not great fighter just like that one handed bum Trinidad who got humiliated by Hopkins.

              You cling to all the excuses from Cotto nation hahaha ''bricks doe'' ''drained doe'' ''steroids doe'' ''wasn't motivated doe''

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                #97
                Originally posted by R_Walken
                I'm a Oscar hater. Great resume believe TR did a excellent job building him up and knew when to put him in fights .but in my opinion he's a good fighter for his era he's not one of the best but he was the $ man.

                Starting out He built his resume fighting past prime legends and when he fought the elite guys of his era he lost. Since Tito what notable wins does be have Vargas, Mayorga, Gatti.

                Over-Rated but that resume is insane.
                you got it.

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                  #98
                  Originally posted by LacedUp
                  What about Hagler? You don't think he's a true ATG?
                  I think he's an ATG but he's not all that great what people make him out to be.



                  Originally posted by joseph5620
                  Name one fight where Floyd or Jones ran scared for four rounds the way Oscar did against Trinidad. I'll wait.
                  This just tells me that you didn't really watch the fight or remember it. He outthrew and outpunched Trinidad in that round if I remember correctly as well as fought half of the time in the middle of the ring. Oscar did not run for four rounds, three yes.

                  Originally posted by Zhang Yong Jun
                  **** off you black supremacist ******.

                  Oscar whooped that clown Whittaker and he whooped the cheating ass Trinidad, Mayweather ran against Baldomir, Guerrero almost every fight in the last round you damn fool.
                  That's true in a way, specially with Floyd vs Baldomir. One of the most boring fights I've ever seen.

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                    #99
                    Originally posted by Mr.Fantastic
                    I think he's an ATG but he's not all that great what people make him out to be.





                    This just tells me that you didn't really watch the fight or remember it. He outthrew and outpunched Trinidad in that round if I remember correctly as well as fought half of the time in the middle of the ring. Oscar did not run for four rounds, three yes.



                    That's true in a way, specially with Floyd vs Baldomir. One of the most boring fights I've ever seen.

                    Mayweather didn't fight Baldomir the same way Oscar fought Trinidad in those later rounds. But I can't convince delusional people.

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                      #100
                      Boaderline ATG, IMO.

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