Paulie:I believe Manny Pacquiao is Cheating, A cheater doesn't deserve a money fight.

[deanrw]

All fighters who are in their mid thirties and still on the top level, are very suspect.

Hell back in the 80's, any fighter who hit 30 was considered to be at or slightly past prime. By mid 30's, you could stick a fork in a majority of them.

Now, We got fighters lasting way longer. Their downslide is much slower and linear. We no longer see the old saying "Getting Old Overnight" situation and fighters are staying at the top of their game way past the normal expiration date. Why you ask? It is not evolution of the human body. It is the evolution of synthetic hormones.

Training now compared to back then is basically the same, and nutrition has not changed much either.

[Heavyfist]

All fighters who are in their mid thirties and still on the top level, are very suspect.

Hell back in the 80's, any fighter who hit 30 was considered to be at or slightly past prime. By mid 30's, you could stick a fork in a majority of them.

Now, We got fighters lasting way longer. Their downslide is much slower and linear. We no longer see the old saying "Getting Old Overnight" situation and fighters are staying at the top of their game way past the normal expiration date. Why you ask? It is not evolution of the human body. It is the evolution of synthetic hormones.

Training now compared to back then is basically the same, and nutrition has not changed much either.

Yup. Fighters like Froch, JMM, Sergio Martinez, raise HUGE red flags.

I would bet money, all three of those guys are on PEDs, because they got faster and stronger as they got into their late 30s.

But PAC has actually slowed down, and his work rate has gone waaaaay down, so I really really don't think he used PEDs.

PAC is a clean fighter.

[joseph5620]

so if he was juicing why would he go back and agree to what floyd offer of the 14 days then? its EGO!! pac wanted to dictate to floyd what he can and cant do and floyd was doing the same.

He didn't agree to anything.. He stated it publicly after the offer was off the table for months. That's not a negotiation. It's grandstanding. If he really wanted it he would have agreed to the terms when it mattered.

[Left Hook Tua]

Well that's your opinion. But the purpose is for the person being tested not to know.

bet you we made 3 blood tests and unlimited urine testing as standard. a gang of cheats get caught or stop using.

[Left Hook Tua]

All fighters who are in their mid thirties and still on the top level, are very suspect.

Hell back in the 80's, any fighter who hit 30 was considered to be at or slightly past prime. By mid 30's, you could stick a fork in a majority of them.

Now, We got fighters lasting way longer. Their downslide is much slower and linear. We no longer see the old saying "Getting Old Overnight" situation and fighters are staying at the top of their game way past the normal expiration date. Why you ask? It is not evolution of the human body. It is the evolution of synthetic hormones.

Training now compared to back then is basically the same, and nutrition has not changed much either.

so can i officially make tito-bhop a NC, dean.

[AllBoxingAD]

see the thing is camp is only 2 months.

to me blood testing 3 times in 2 months even if it isn't random is good.

especially with unlimited urine testings.

i know there's ways around it but it would still be risky for a cheat.

plus the most important thing is the blood test fight night.

that makes sure no one is on something when they fight.

Its not about the amount of times he gets tested.

The moment you remove the 'random' aspect of testing, there isnt a point to it anymore, because of all the masking agents athletes can take to fool the test.

Manny's compromise was a farce.

[IMDAZED]

bet you we made 3 blood tests and unlimited urine testing as standard. a gang of cheats get caught or stop using.

Doesn't matter. The purpose of the testing was that it was unannounced. Manny didn't want that.

[Heavyfist]

Pac is the one who uses VADA testing, the only guys that catch any cheating. USADA lets it all go through waivers.

Pac is clean.

On the other hand, there are rumors floating in the industry that Floyd has failed drug tests and it never came to light through the use of waivers.

There are no rumors Pac has ever failed a test, because he never has. Pacs work rate plummeted at 32.

Pac is a clean fighter. EVERY unbiased person believes this. Pac is well loved and respected.

Floyd is not. Other than Floyds delusional fans, no one likes or respects Floyd. Serial women beaters aint cool.

[KingTito]

Paulie can believe what he wants. I don't care. He just sounds so ridiculous trashing Manny every chance he gets.

[Heavyfist]

Pac long ago agreed to full random blood testing.

Floyd confirmed this years ago. So its rather pathetic you need to tell yourself this lie over and over.