Groves Vs Degale II ?

[Dirk Diggler UK]

You can pretty much critique any fighter in the same way.

You mention Canelo.

Well he's not fast. Flat footed. He's not that powerful. His defence is ****. Not that athletic. Not that skilled.

So how is he talented? What part of his fight game is exceptional?

Adrien Broner - not THAT fast. **** defence. Flat footed. Not that athletic. Not that skilled.

Quite an easy way to critique someone.

[IronDanHamza]

There's about 2 seconds of him bending and slipping like one punch.

Isn't Degale's "flashes of brilliance" against Gonzalez short?

Eubank has done similar movements. Albeit against truley terrible opposition.

[HughJass]

If Degale had of pressed the action earlier on in their first fight,he would of won.Simple as that really.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Isn't Degale's "flashes of brilliance" against Gonzalez short?

Eubank has done similar movements. Albeit against truley terrible opposition.

DeGale slipped and rolled punches on the ropes then immediately transferred to an attack of about a 6 or 7 punch combo which layed Gonzales out.

Eubank Jr slips one slow hesitant punch from some frightened cab driver and that's the same?

[IronDanHamza]

You can pretty much critique any fighter in the same way.

You mention Canelo.

Well he's not fast. Flat footed. He's not that powerful. His defence is ****. Not that athletic. Not that skilled.

So how is he talented? What part of his fight game is exceptional?

Adrien Broner - not THAT fast. **** defence. Flat footed. Not that athletic. Not that skilled.

Quite an easy way to critique someone.

I'm not praising these fighters. You asked me to provide young fighters who have done similar things to what Degale did to Gonzalez, that's what I did. I think it's crazy to think Degale is the only young fighter doing "that".

And obviously Broner has fast hands. I don't rate Broner but he's a lot more talented than Degale. Albeit I don't consider him that talented either.

How can you critisize any fighter in the same way?

Degale isn't overly good in any area. Similar to a Tim Bradley type fighter.

The list is endless of fighters who are better than average in one or more areas.

[IronDanHamza]

DeGale slipped and rolled punches on the ropes then immediately transferred to an attack of about a 6 or 7 punch combo which layed Gonzales out.

Eubank Jr slips one slow hesitant punch from some frightened cab driver and that's the same?

No it's not the same I didn't say it was.

But it's not like that's the only punch Eubank has slipped. I've seen him slip a combination and fire back with crisp conbination. Easy to do at his level but I've seen him do it.

[LacedUp]

DeGale slipped and rolled punches on the ropes then immediately transferred to an attack of about a 6 or 7 punch combo which layed Gonzales out.

Eubank Jr slips one slow hesitant punch from some frightened cab driver and that's the same?

Level of opposition weren't really in the criteria though. You just asked for a young fighter who pulls those kinds of moves off.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Tim Bradley?

Being better than average in one area doesn't necessarily make you talented. Marcos Maidana has better than average power but he's a **** average fighter overall.

I guess agree to disagree and we can wait n see because you guys clearly don't see what I see. I think he's the most naturally talented fighter Britain have produced in a while. Talent only takes you so far though.

Like I said, the crux seems to be his level of competition which is rising so we'll soon find out if he has what it takes to display the talent I see at elite level.

Don't suddenly hop on the bandwagon when DeGale conquers the universe, boys

[IronDanHamza]

Level of opposition weren't really in the criteria though. You just asked for a young fighter who pulls those kinds of moves off.

Degale reminds me of Billy Joe Saunders abit.

On the point of Eubank

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Level of opposition weren't really in the criteria though. You just asked for a young fighter who pulls those kinds of moves off.

Clearly not the same moves as what I was talking about. Eubank Jr is quite stiff at times to me, his best attribute is coming forward and throwing aggressive combinations. He's not a slick, slippery, awkward fighter like DeGale