Prime Tyson vs Prime Frazier

[soul_survivor]

he didnt pummel liston and frazier? he didnt ko foreman? he didnt beat shavers? yes the norton fights were close but saying he lost all of em is being as delusional as jmm fans. lets just end it here. u clearly havent seen those fights.

[abdelfadeel]

Shavers: Tyson KO1
Liston: Tyson KO3
Frazier: Tyson KO1
Foreman: Tyson KO6
Patterson: Tyson KO1
Norton: Tyson KO1
Chuvalo: Tyson KO1-3

That's what I think.

You know absolutley nothing about boxing. That;s what I think.

[Mr.Fantastic]

Tyson would fuck him up.

[PainfromUkraine]

Prime Tyson wins this one, hard to bet against the prime Tyson in any case but I think he blows out Frazier, who will be game but eventually overwhelmed.

[M Bison]

he didnt pummel liston and frazier? he didnt ko foreman? he didnt beat shavers? yes the norton fights were close but saying he lost all of em is being as delusional as jmm fans. lets just end it here. u clearly havent seen those fights.

Lmao I watched all his Norton fights and the Earnie Shaver fight and he can thank allah because it must have been him that graced Ali with the win because it sure as hell wasn't his in ring display lol.

Shavers ****** him like a drum for the entire fight and Ken Norton just made him look silly in there a bit like when Ali fought Jimmy Young lol its embarrassing...
It really is, Ali became bigger than boxing and the proof of that is those dubious decisions.

[SlySlickSmooth]

Two-handed explosive puncher who is a savage in the first half, especially the first four, and then starts to lag in the second half.. still the power will be there.

vs

One handed non-stop action machine who gets stronger down the stretch.


If Tyson catches Frazier with an uppercut while Joe is in the motion of ducking, its all over.

[I_like_wendys]

Not true, like your Pryor story but reversed, Frazier's kids could very well have the same heart and will as their father did.

That was sarcasm.

Comparing Pryor's kid to Hawk is insanity.

jr. isn't the fighter Hawk was because he was raised in the good life after Hawk won the titles and got all the good tv time; That's exactly what I was saying about Marvis. Marvis was born with silk pajamas, daddy earned um for him.
Joe Frazier was a different breed of man to his son. Same with Pryor and his.

And he wasn't ****ing featherfisted

[abdelfadeel]

Lmao I watched all his Norton fights and the Earnie Shaver fight and he can thank allah because it must have been him that graced Ali with the win because it sure as hell wasn't his in ring display lol.

Shavers ****** him like a drum for the entire fight and Ken Norton just made him look silly in there a bit like when Ali fought Jimmy Young lol its embarrassing...
It really is, Ali became bigger than boxing and the proof of that is those dubious decisions.

Do you really think Norton was robbed in his second fight with Ali? I was the biggest Ali hater back then and I couldn't see any way anyone could give this fight to Norton as I was looking for rounds to give him.
As for the third fight, I tried to scored this fight without any bias and even tho deep down I would've wanted Norton to win on my scorecard, he didn't.

Norton won rounds: 2, 3, 5, 6, 8, and 14

Ali won rounds: 1, 7, 9, 10, 11, 13, and 15

Drew rounds: 4 and 12

Even round 4 could've been tipped in Ali's favor looking back so all in all there was no robbery I think Ali won fair and square. Almost everyone in the arena basically had the bout come down to the 15th round which Ken gave away by landing one jab in the first two minutes and a total of two up to the last thirty seconds, he gave the round and fight away. Norton has no one to blame but himself. The Associated press had the bout 8-6-1 Ali while UPI had it by round 8-7 for Norton, and the London Daily Mirror 6-6-3, all razor close in a very close fight won by Ali. (Unofficial punch counts done by various observers is 281 landed by Ali and 199 Norton for the bout).
As for the Young bout, The referee warned Young repeatedly for hitting below the belt early on, but then he just forgot about it while Young continued to do it. So while some people may have scored these flurries as points for Young, I didn't because they were illegal.
Secondly, it could have counted as a knockdown against Jimmy when he stuck his head and body outside the ring. In the tenth round, Ali actually tried punching Jimmy while he ducked outside the ring. But the referee pulled him off.
No robbery in that one.
Even Shavers admitted he lost against Ali.

[Easy Work.]

Lmao I watched all his Norton fights and the Earnie Shaver fight and he can thank allah because it must have been him that graced Ali with the win because it sure as hell wasn't his in ring display lol.

Shavers ****** him like a drum for the entire fight and Ken Norton just made him look silly in there a bit like when Ali fought Jimmy Young lol its embarrassing...
It really is, Ali became bigger than boxing and the proof of that is those dubious decisions.

lol do you even watch alis fights? you are such a delsuional hater that its almost hard to take you seriously lmao. Obviously you are a better boxing judge than 3 ringside LMAO gtfo with youre nonsense you are embarassing yourself

[Easy Work.]

Shavers: Tyson KO1
Liston: Tyson KO3
Frazier: Tyson KO1
Foreman: Tyson KO6
Patterson: Tyson KO1
Norton: Tyson KO1
Chuvalo: Tyson KO1-3

That's what I think.

Most of those opponents wouldn't stretch Tyson any further than the bum opponents that Tyson did fight.

Ali's resume is realistically pretty poor by modern standards.

I would like to think Foreman could lose a UD to Mike, he might, but when you review the Lyle fight, it's pretty doubtful!

I didnt know buster douglas is better competition than a undeafeated Goerge Foreman or jow frazier. lol stop nuthuggin tyson so badly