Prime Tyson vs Prime Frazier

[richardt]

If Tyson doesn't get Frazier out of there in the first half of the fight, he's got a problem.

Yes, 1-5 I have Tyson. 6-15, it is Frazier wearing Tyson down and taking him out.

[Elroy1]

Let's say Frazier "miraculously survived" the first half of the fight Scott.

Please explain for all of us exactly HOW Frazier would pose any form of problem for Tyson in the hypothetical second half of the fight?

Don't tell me Tyson gasses against Frazier

This fight isn't going more than 30 seconds.

If you want to know what would happen to Joe, watch Tyson vs Marvis Frazier.

Marvis wears the label of "not living up to his father". But in reality, there was very little difference. The division changed.

There was a version of Ali who was much better (Holmes) and a "Frazier 5.0" (Tyson). He wouldn't have a hope in the 80's.

Frazier wouldn't survive the sturdy solid competition posed by guys like Smith, Witherspoon etc, let alone Holmes, let alone Tyson.

[I_like_wendys]

Let's say Frazier "miraculously survived" the first half of the fight Scott.

Please explain for all of us exactly HOW Frazier would pose any form of problem for Tyson in the hypothetical second half of the fight?

It's called Joe Frazier's Left hook

Don't tell me Tyson gasses against Frazier

This fight isn't going more than 30 seconds.

Frazier hurts Mike and Mike stays the course, just like when Bruno hurt him and everyone after.

Mike hurts Frazier and Frazier stays the course ect.

If you want to know what would happen to Joe, watch Tyson vs Marvis Frazier.

Marvis wears the label of "not living up to his father". But in reality, there was very little difference. The division changed.

Aaron Pryor jr. has the will, heart, hunger Aaron Pryor had when he was fighting. Pryor is lucky he wasn't fighting at 168 in the 2010s.

Frazier's kids will never be able to say they had dad's hunger to win the title, because he was World Heavyweight Champ, because his fights with Ali were the highest grossing in 50 years after inflation.

Marvis Frazier isn't Smokin' Joe Frazier.

There was a version of Ali who was much better (Holmes) and a "Frazier 5.0" (Tyson). He wouldn't have a hope in the 80's.

Frazier wouldn't survive the sturdy solid competition posed by guys like Smith, Witherspoon etc, let alone Holmes, let alone Tyson.

Bonecrusher Smith makes easy work of Prime Joe.

Tim Witherspoon makes easy work of Prime Joe.

That's not worth arguing.

[Scott9945]

Let's say Frazier "miraculously survived" the first half of the fight Scott.

Please explain for all of us exactly HOW Frazier would pose any form of problem for Tyson in the hypothetical second half of the fight?

Don't tell me Tyson gasses against Frazier

This fight isn't going more than 30 seconds.

If you want to know what would happen to Joe, watch Tyson vs Marvis Frazier.

Marvis wears the label of "not living up to his father". But in reality, there was very little difference. The division changed.

There was a version of Ali who was much better (Holmes) and a "Frazier 5.0" (Tyson). He wouldn't have a hope in the 80's.

Frazier wouldn't survive the sturdy solid competition posed by guys like Smith, Witherspoon etc, let alone Holmes, let alone Tyson.

I'm sorry, but if you can't even recognize the difference between Joe and Marvis Frazier, it is a waste of time debating with you. At that point you have become ridiculous. Your entire analysis of boxing is based on eras and size. Real life boxing is so much more than that. And people that really know boxing understand that.

[lefthook2daliva]

I'll take Smokin' Joe by late stoppage.

[Elroy1]

It's called Joe Frazier's Left hook

You've got to be kidding. Tyson had an very hard chin and Frazier was a featherfist. Even if Tyson stood there and let Joe wail on him, he couldn't hurt Tyson. More the point, Frazier's left hook is far too slow and uncoordinated for Tyson to ever be hit with.

Plus, Tyson fought guys with much better hooks than Frazier. He survived "the smash" 2ce remember. I see nothing in the arsenal of Joe Frazier that would trouble Tyson at all, even if he survived more than 30 secs.

Frazier hurts Mike and Mike stays the course, just like when Bruno hurt him and everyone after.

Mike smashed the **** out of Bruno. Yeah Bruno got him, Bruno actually had SOME boxing skills and not to mention, Bruno was massive and built like a friggin tank and mega athletic. Not the one eyed punch bag fat bum dwarf that Frazier was

Mike hurts Frazier and Frazier stays the course ect.

More like, Mike hurts Frazier, Frazier goes flying across, or out of the ring out cold.

Frazier's kids will never be able to say they had dad's hunger to win the title, because he was World Heavyweight Champ, because his fights with Ali were the highest grossing in 50 years after inflation.

Not true, like your Pryor story but reversed, Frazier's kids could very well have the same heart and will as their father did. Unfortunately THEY were very Unlucky that they were in the 80's with stiff and insurmountable competition, instead of the comparatively very weak era of the 60's and 70's. Frazier can only become HW champ if his opposition is weak (which is definitely was). Insert Joe into the 80's, he does no better than Marvis. The only time he met an opponent 80's comparable, he bounced around like a basketball!

Fighting Ali is not a sign of greatness. 2 overrated featherfists, in overrated fights!

Marvis Frazier isn't Smokin' Joe Frazier.

No. But they are fairly comparable. Much more so than either of them to Tyson!

Bonecrusher Smith makes easy work of Prime Joe.

Tim Witherspoon makes easy work of Prime Joe.

That's not worth arguing.

We agree on something

[Elroy1]

I'm sorry, but if you can't even recognize the difference between Joe and Marvis Frazier, it is a waste of time debating with you. At that point you have become ridiculous. Your entire analysis of boxing is based on eras and size. Real life boxing is so much more than that. And people that really know boxing understand that.

Your posts can be summed up in even fewer words..

Old, Time, Nutbaggery!



Nutbaggery is a disease that damages boxing. It should be stamped out.

[Daddy T]

Tyson would bounce him around the ring ala foreman imo. Don't think joe could handle the power. Joe has the type of style that prime mike would eat for breakfast seven days a week.

[Elroy1]

Tyson would bounce him around the ring ala foreman imo. Don't think joe could handle the power. Joe has the type of style that prime mike would eat for breakfast seven days a week.

Yeah walking your chubby 210lb chinny defenceless ass into the path of a rampaging bull will get ya ****ed up everytime like that

[abdelfadeel]

Let's say Frazier "miraculously survived" the first half of the fight Scott.

Please explain for all of us exactly HOW Frazier would pose any form of problem for Tyson in the hypothetical second half of the fight?

Don't tell me Tyson gasses against Frazier

This fight isn't going more than 30 seconds.

If you want to know what would happen to Joe, watch Tyson vs Marvis Frazier.

Marvis wears the label of "not living up to his father". But in reality, there was very little difference. The division changed.

There was a version of Ali who was much better (Holmes) and a "Frazier 5.0" (Tyson). He wouldn't have a hope in the 80's.

Frazier wouldn't survive the sturdy solid competition posed by guys like Smith, Witherspoon etc, let alone Holmes, let alone Tyson.

Tyson would gas against frazier's relentless body attack. everything Holmes did, Ali did better. Based on your speculation and nothing more